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Bus Discussion => Bus Topics ( click here for quick start! ) => Topic started by: Scott & Heather on May 04, 2016, 09:57:51 AM
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Having done a bus conversion already before, I have to say doing a second one is exponentially easier from a "I kinda know what to expect" standpoint. But, same old dirty nasty loud work. I forgot how nasty that tar tape is. I want to shoot the engineer who came up with that one. Ripped up the floor in one day. Today cutting off the screw heads and prepping floor framework for new floor. Spray foam insulation gets sprayed on Monday, so gotta get this done.
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hi Scott, good job, thanks for letting me see the under floor on a C3, tom, lvmci...
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why, would you not just lay the new over the old...?
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Good job, Keep up the good work and keep posting updates.
Jason
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Do you have a plan worked out for access to the central pass way for hoses and cables? You might need to be able to get to it someday from above or below. Slow down a little bit, you young guys make us older guys seem slow.
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Thanks :) access to the central passage isn't needed. Nothing there I need to get to. The passage underneath for air line and coolant lines is accessible underneath the false floor in the ceiling of the luggage bays. the old floor was rotten and stinky from years of vomiting mopping and condensation. No way in the world I would leave the old floor in there.
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Go Scott Go ;D...
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Good, you are doing it correctly. You can't always cover old stink, dogs or cats would know it is there even if we do not smell it. By the way, that last picture showed some sparks flying near all that plywood debris. Have a fire extinguisher available just in case. I was once grinding away throwing sparks against my jeans and they actually caught on fire. I was notified of that when I smelled the burning hairs on my leg. We do not like to stop when fully engaged in a project.
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Good reminder. I have one I just left it outside. I'll put it back inside just in case. I'm throwing a ton of sparks tomorrow!!😎
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Yes be carefull with the sparks they are very hot and can leave pits in glass and actually melt through plastic air lines that may be nearby. Ask me how I know.
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Benefit from the mistakes of others, and don't forget to create new mistakes of your own that you can pass on to us. Come to think of it, you already have - thanks!
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Funny, or not so funny, mistake with sparks just yesterday... I was cutting 1 3/4" and 1 1/4" tubing both .12" thick to do some fabricating for the bus. A lot of sparks flying for about an hour and I didn't even notice that two of them stuck to my glasses; they melted two little pits into the lens that are now two small permanent black spots in my field of vision. Those darn sparks. I should have been wearing a different set of safety glasses so it is my fault. Live and learn.
I am excited for you Scott, it is great to see you starting on the new bus. Can't wait to see what you end up coming up with!
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Bummer about Your glasses Bjorn. I melted my MCI 9 windshield once with welding sparks. And today I had a spark or two drop into the ankle part of my shoe...oh that tickles something fierce. Seat rails are finally out thanks to my wife's tenacity with an angle grinder and a cutting wheel. Cleaned up all the screw heads sticking up. Tomorrow we deep clean the floor and prep for spray foam on Monday! (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160506/a65d838acd77955e14dfa32a88247ada.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160506/e265baf1f21c6a43ae25d2446bb3f8be.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160506/edf4893a5664af97d316f6502450c2fc.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160506/db9b41811bc24677e517237b16b45ca2.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160506/f15e83708f262679ff027d7581ff8917.jpg)
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Thanks Scott for the pictures.
I have made copies and am showing them to Wilma.
I have been trying for 54 years to convince her to help.
LOL on that
uncle ned
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Hey Scott I'm curious why you decided to convert another bus? For myself it was a matter of more room, a change in floorplan, and just doing an all around better quality build than the first one. A contributing factor is also the more modern drive train and overall performance.
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Everything you jus said. Literally. Obviously the DDEC II 8v92TA isn't modern but it's a step up from our Mechanical 6v92. I appreciate the trans that shifts better, more power, throttle by wire instead of 40 foot cable, touchpad electronic wipers with adjustable delay, tilting telescoping steering wheel, 6" wider, 6" longer in bedroom area because of flat back conversion. This coach fell into our laps in Dallas and we just couldn't pass it up. Brand new brakes all the way around, new bearings, new u joints, brand new airbags all the way around. Completely new airlines and fittings, very nicely done 12 volt taillight conversion, nicely done 8" roof raise and Renaissance caps, 24.5" aluminum alcoas, new tires, rust free chassis, new shocks all the way around including tags, new tag bushings completely rebuilt with new parts, cooling box and mitre box for blowers all rebuilt from ground up and brand new mitre box and new squirrel cage fans new polymer bushing pucks. New radiators and hoses. Came with a complete 6v92 in frame kit from Detroit in the luggage bays still in packaging. Also in luggage bays:
New bendix compressor
New 8v92 DDEC II harness
New brake can diaphragms
Dash tach
Tons of various new parts and pieces from MCI coachguard.
Brand new engine mount rubbers
New wheel seals
All for $10K. Couldn't pass it up. Just couldn't.
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Floor remove completed in one day. Next day Heather and I cleaned up broken screw heads and cleaned gray caulking from sides in prep for new floor. Also cleaned all the various parts and 6b92 in frame kit out of luggage bays so I can work under there when the time comes. That took a day transferring everything out of the luggage bays and into my in laws shed. Today is final prep for the spray foamers tomorrow!
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Everything you jus said. Literally. Obviously the DDEC II 8v92TA isn't modern but it's a step up from our Mechanical 6v92. I appreciate the trans that shifts better, more power, throttle by wire instead of 40 foot cable, touchpad electronic wipers with adjustable delay, tilting telescoping steering wheel, 6" wider, 6" longer in bedroom area because of flat back conversion. This coach fell into our laps in Dallas and we just couldn't pass it up. Brand new brakes all the way around, new bearings, new u joints, brand new airbags all the way around. Completely new airlines and fittings, very nicely done 12 volt taillight conversion, nicely done 8" roof raise and Renaissance caps, 24.5" aluminum alcoas, new tires, rust free chassis, new shocks all the way around including tags, new tag bushings completely rebuilt with new parts, cooling box and mitre box for blowers all rebuilt from ground up and brand new mitre box and new squirrel cage fans new polymer bushing pucks. New radiators and hoses. Came with a complete 6v92 in frame kit from Detroit in the luggage bays still in packaging. Also in luggage bays:
New bendix compressor
New 8v92 DDEC II harness
New brake can diaphragms
Dash tach
Tons of various new parts and pieces from MCI coachguard.
Brand new engine mount rubbers
New wheel seals
All for $10K. Couldn't pass it up. Just couldn't.
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No doubt about it, a very good deal, one of the very best possible.
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OK yep good deal. Haven't found the dead fish under a seat yet I hope? That would be my luck, :o LOL
Dave5Cs
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Lol. Not yet. I've stripped the coach bare in prep for conversion and driven it 2000 miles without issue so I'm pretty sure we're good :) the previous owner is amazing and has kept in touch with us even emailing me a few days ago to see how the conversion is going. He ended up finding a deal on a newer bluebird and has been working on it :)
Today coach was dropped off at the spray foamers :) and the interior strip out trash was taken to the landfill. (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160509/047871c4932336fbeff8a54cfed5ab82.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160509/ff1d557d64dc2ba3ed5438e4c7ea3316.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160509/5fa72244c6d2a776427c8714e72c9071.jpg)
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I'm moving my posts over to my project page since this really will continue to be ongoing and I don't want to busy up the main page...so I locked the thread, and will post from now on in "BUS PROJECTS" Baby on board :)
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