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Title: Tow a sprung 4509 4hours: Tow options quotes and getting towed couple MTN passes
Post by: busfan on March 09, 2018, 07:45:40 PM
Couple question on the best way to tow.. 

Considering towing from the back or front, drive line is easy to take off but the front tires look really good, rear tires look like recaps. I could easily source a spare for the tow up front.  Leaning that way..

I have seen video of these coaches being towed bolted on to the front bumper section.  Rarely from the rear, where would be the best attachment spot on the rear cradle?  What should I expect $ wise wrecker vs trailered?

Bus is a 51 steel sprung 4509 old look transit with a 6-71 35ft.
Title: Re: Tow a sprung 4509 4hours: Tow options quotes and getting towed couple MTN passes
Post by: Lee Bradley on March 10, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
I would find someone with a lowboy trailer.

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Title: Re: Tow a gmc bus over a couple MTN passes Special MCI GMC tool for eyelets
Post by: busfan on March 10, 2018, 12:02:55 PM
Thanks Lee, that looks like the safest route and possible the least expensive(assuming a blow out) I plan to go the low boy route..

Out of curiosity and planning for the worst in the future, I found a couple front attachment options below.

Looks like if the wrecker has one of a multitude of tow adapters the MCI and GMC share the eylet pin.

Here is the attachment from a tow equipment commercial: See bottom video and fast forward video 8 min mark to see Just the MCI GMC attachment.

https://zips.com/parts-detail/miller-bus-lift-eye-attachment-set-124002634

Looks like the early GMC tow eyelets might be smaller than the later ones? The pin in the video looks huge.

While the tow eyelet may be doable it looks like I would prefer the front axle tow (depending on if I had a choice in the situation) as it looks like the  least wear and tear on the old aluminum/plywood/steel girder structure.


Title: Re: Tow a sprung 4509 4hours: Tow options quotes and getting towed couple MTN passes
Post by: RoverScout on March 10, 2018, 06:25:12 PM
Just on topic of cost, I paid about $3000 CND for a tow from Arkon, Ohio to St Thomas, Ontario Canada 300 miles one-way. Tow companies charge for hook-up and milage from the time thy leave and return to their yard. MCI-12 towed from front with axle lift forks, rear axle spindles removed. Float was mentioned but not favored as the max height was within inches.

Scott
Title: Re: Tow a sprung 4509 4hours: Tow options quotes and getting towed couple MTN passes
Post by: kyle4501 on March 10, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
I've had several Scenicruisers PD4501 towed on a Landoll trailer.
Cost started at $2 per mile the truck & trailer traveled. But, that was over 5 years ago.

Your '51 will be less than 10 feet tall, so that should work to stay within height limits. . . .
Title: Re: Tow a sprung 4509 4hours: Tow options quotes and getting towed couple MTN passes
Post by: luvrbus on March 10, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
I've had several Scenicruisers PD4501 towed on a Landoll trailer.
Cost started at $2 per mile the truck & trailer traveled. But, that was over 5 years ago.

Your '51 will be less than 10 feet tall, so that should work to stay within height limits. . . .


When I need a Landoll in Phoenix I use Interstate Towing they charge me $115.00 a hour with a 2 hour minimum,no mileage, hookup fees just $115.00 per hour   
Title: Re: Tow a sprung 4509 4hours: Tow options quotes and getting towed couple MTN passes
Post by: busfan on March 10, 2018, 11:38:55 PM
Thx Rover, Kyle and LVRbus all good info! Does the Landoll usually have a large wench on it, or do they use the one on the truck?
Title: Re: Tow a sprung 4509 4hours: Tow options quotes and getting towed couple MTN passes
Post by: kyle4501 on March 11, 2018, 05:51:54 AM
Usually a large winch on the trailer
Title: Re: Tow a sprung 4509 4hours: Tow options quotes and getting towed couple MTN passes
Post by: edvanland on March 11, 2018, 02:30:04 PM
Go on you tube and look up MCI Heavy haul that is my bus going into Quartzsite a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Tow a sprung 4509 4hours: Tow options quotes and getting towed couple MTN passes
Post by: busfan on March 11, 2018, 02:44:45 PM
Checked it out, what happened on the drop?  Brake lock up? Why did it take so long to get it off trailer?  Looked like the guy got it caught on the end, maybe clearance to the wall in back?
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