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Bus Discussion => Bus Topics ( click here for quick start! ) => Topic started by: chessie4905 on October 30, 2020, 08:41:59 AM
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heads up! Harbor Freight has 15% off everything single purchase thru this Sunday. If you are an inside track club member, it is 20% off single purchase. Plus if you get Harbor Freight credit card while you are in there, you get 10% off first purchase. I used both 20%itc, and got their credit card. Got the Earthquake 3/4" drive battery impact and while we were in there, Linda bought a spare battery for 15% off, since she is on there mailing list too. Bottom line; I got the impact for 200 bucks plus tax comes and with a battery and case.
Ive never seen that model impact on sale, just the 1/2" one.
Yeah, I know, the Fuel impact is supposedly better, but at this deal can't pass up. Just a heads up on this deal. Not intending to start a popcorn session.😄
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Or you can buy the dewalt and be much much happier.
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why? because youve used both?
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I checked those out today they look alright and would be ok for a owner using it not everyday,I started to buy one for the shop but the 90 day warranty turn me off by the time you paid for a 3 year warranty it cost more to buy than a Dewalt that comes with a standard 3 year warranty
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I dont plan on using mine every day. But will come in handy out on the road. And sometimes I have a bolt or nut the 1/2" wont cut it and hate hooking up the big line and 3 /4 or 1" tool.
Besides, I wont buy any more Dewalt since they are owned by Black and Decker. B&D makes junk and I wont support them anymore. Guess it's like tires.
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Just looked the Dewalt up. It says battery and charger are extra, just like Milwaukee.
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I dont plan on using mine every day. But will come in handy out on the road. And sometimes I have a bolt or nut the 1/2" wont cut it and hate hooking up the big line and 3 /4 or 1" tool.
Besides, I wont buy any more Dewalt since they are owned by Black and Decker. B&D makes junk and I wont support them anymore. Guess it's like tires.
Hey wait a minute I thought B&D made good coffee makers, oh well. :-\ :)
But really am curious how the HF 3/4" does, please let us know if you get one ;)
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"Guess it's like tires"
Dewalt make tires??? :) :) :).
I have owned 4 dewalt tools.I originally liked them cause they were yellow :D but they all
broke.No more Dewalt for me-ever. Milwaukee it is.
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Fred - I agree and no longer the yellow brand. It WAS a quality brand but no longer in my book.
3/4" impact - I totally agree to with lug removal tool. If you do this all day long I've seen personally how an impact is useful. For those busnuts,
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LOL you guys are rough on tools,I have both the red and yellow neither one is going to give the long life service of a quality air tool ,I have a B&D commercial grade 4 inch grinder I purchased in 80's that has outlasted 2=4 inch Milwaukee grinders
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I have a DeWalt 1/4" Impact that has given me great service, and I have a B&D Commercial grinder that I bought used from a Welder in 1984 that continues doing nasty grinding. Things are different because old brands have changed hands, and many items are now made in China, but if you can find a good old tool at an auction or garage sale, get it. I still have a 1/2" drill from Montgomery Ward that my Uncle bought in 1962 (I had to replace the electric cord). The newer battery impacts that are available now are the exception, they had no counterpart decades ago (unless you include air tools).
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I bought the 3/4 Earthquake sometime around March of this year. It has had no problem with anything on the bus except the budd inner nuts that hadn't been touched for 25 years. I had a friend bring a 1" air impact by after installing the needed outlet on my compressor and it got them off after a bit of a fight. It seems like a solid tool and rips through everything else quick and easy. I really like it for demo tasks where breaking the bolt doesn't hurt anything. I can usually snap a 1/2" bolt in about half a second if I just let it go full force.
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One issue I see in all impact wrenches, air or battery. Forward torque is noticeably less than reverse. Normally ok, but left hand threads nuts on coaches may not be as easy to loosen.
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I have a new Dewalt 3/4" impact. I use it to set (read pre-set) hub piloted wheel nuts before final set with proper torgue wrench to 450 ft. lbs.
It's just that it is hard on the fastners letting the gun hammer soooo long to get it close to that point.
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aren't hub piloted nuts metric? You using a metric socket or an inch type that could be a little sloppy fit.
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aren't hub piloted nuts metric? You using a metric socket or an inch type that could be a little sloppy fit.
33mm (brand new so no slop)
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Grade 8 nuts shouldn't have a problem rounding.
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My point was ... to point out, that the Dewalt gun does not have enuff poop to loosen (or tighten) a wheel nut without having to sit there and hammer away until it finally loosens.
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Probably using a gear drive or pipe to break them loose will help a lot. That washer built into the nuts on hub piloted can be a bear to break loose.
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Probably using a gear drive or pipe to break them loose will help a lot. That washer built into the nuts on hub piloted can be a bear to break loose.
If you use a gear reduction to loosen not sure why one needs anything more than a simple ratchet or any DIYer impact.
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Thats right. If he already has one. Maybe the fuel model or HF would break them loose every time, but who is going to drop coin to find out?
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Milwaukee 3/4” fuel , 33mm socket , no adapters.
Put them on with the Milwaukee, checked with torque wrench all @475-500 specs. They go on and off annually with the Milwaukee, nothing else. Never let the monkey with a fresh 1” impact ruin them. A real tire shop will put them on with a 475 lb. torque stick and check them with a real torque wrench. Nothing else touches my wheel ends.
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Impact wrenches of any type are hard on the fine thread dry torque lug nuts ,that is why they tell you use a few drops of oil on the hub centered nuts and washers,it's a better system than the stud pilot but can be a bear if installed dry to remove with even a 1 inch air gun
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On and off annually. That is the main key to getting them loose. The ones that haven't been touched for years and ,or out in the weather, including salt or other corrosives are the ones that refuse to loosen easily.
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I've used never seize on our stud piloted lug nuts - very sparingly on the threads & taper for 40 years without issue. Right or wrong it's worked for us. 10-4 0n the never removed rusty ones! We only did that once...
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Interesting. If the first time is the bear and a proper torque is applied to a cleaned set of studs and lug nuts, then there shouldn't be any need for a really stout impact. If you use a torque wrench to do the final tightening then just about anything can get the nuts to settle down firmly into the rim without hammering. Good, one "need to buy" tool off this but hummm.. a new one goes on long high torque wrench. Never a free ride with a bus.
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There are situations where only a 1" drive air impact like the CP 797-6 will get the nut off, or you need a geared reducer, but they take a long time to get all 10 off. When the wheel has been sitting for a decade or two, with a little rust involved, I doubt that any 3/4" battery impact is going to do the job, Milwaukee or whatever. In the case of both left and right hand threads, you need equal power in both directions. Even the 1" can run in to trouble at the recommended pressure of 90 psi, but it can handle higher pressures and get the job done (but the life is reduced). When you absolutely want to get the wheel off with no fooling around, 1".
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There are situations where only a 1" drive air impact like the CP 797-6 will get the nut off, or you need a geared reducer, but they take a long time to get all 10 off. When the wheel has been sitting for a decade or two, with a little rust involved, I doubt that any 3/4" battery impact is going to do the job, Milwaukee or whatever. In the case of both left and right hand threads, you need equal power in both directions. Even the 1" can run in to trouble at the recommended pressure of 90 psi, but it can handle higher pressures and get the job done (but the life is reduced). When you absolutely want to get the wheel off with no fooling around, 1".
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Yep a 1 inch will either remove it or break it if you hammer long enough,fire away but I like never seize lol most people use it but won't admit to using it ;D
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Yes, a1" air, no extensions with large diameter recommended air line at 175 to 195 psi will loosen them of bust off with stud or flip bus over if it wont loosen.😊