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Title: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: Sebulba on April 04, 2022, 07:02:15 PM
Hello all,

Making steady progress on getting ready for our journey to West Yellowstone, MT., got the hitch on the bus and the toad.

Now I'm looking at how the run the wires to my rear camera.  I was hoping to install it very near the top of the back cap, but there seems to be a ceiling of sorts right above the coolant reservoir, about a foot below the top of the roof.  Is the a way to get in the there, or run wires into that?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Seb
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: chessie4905 on April 05, 2022, 08:19:52 AM
They make wireless versions, btw
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: richard5933 on April 05, 2022, 09:03:15 AM
They make wireless versions, btw

I haven't seen a truly wireless backup camera. All the ones I've seen still required some wiring to the power source and transmitter unit. Do you know of one which doesn't require wiring behind it?
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: edvanland on April 05, 2022, 09:27:33 AM
Can you get to that area from the inside? Thats how we did ours on our MCVI7. heck above the bed and see if you have access, then run the wires down the top inside to the front.
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: Sebulba on April 05, 2022, 10:43:30 AM
Can you get to that area from the inside? Thats how we did ours on our MCVI7. heck above the bed and see if you have access, then run the wires down the top inside to the front.

Nope no access that way.  I think I will just have to put it where I can reach.  It will have to work.

It just surprised me that I couldn't reach all the way up there.

Thanks

Seb
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: richard5933 on April 05, 2022, 10:52:18 AM
I put my Garmin rear-view camera towards the top of the engine compartment door. The wiring follows the hinge back towards the firewall, and then I went through the firewall to mount the transmitter in one of the cabinets at the rear of the bedroom in the back of the bus.

The camera is not as high as it would be mounted at the top of the bus, but it's plenty high to see what's necessary. Even at the top of the engine cover, it's still above most cars on the road. Actually, I'm thinking that mounting it where I did allows me a more natural view out the back as the angle from the roof down would affect the way things close to the bus look.

The Garmin camera is very small - only about 1" square. It's not very noticeable from more than a few feet away.
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: chessie4905 on April 05, 2022, 12:00:23 PM
https://typesauto.com/collections/backup-cameras
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: richard5933 on April 05, 2022, 12:46:00 PM
https://typesauto.com/collections/backup-cameras

These seem to list a distance of 30 feet. Do you have any experience with one working 35+ feet from camera to monitor on a bus?

I looked at lots of cameras designed for cars but at the time couldn't find one that would covert the distance without the transmitter mounted inside. Still wireless in that you don't need to run wires all the way front-to-rear, but not totally.
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: lvmci on April 05, 2022, 03:16:13 PM
Wireless setups don't like to transmit thru steel and aluminum. I ran my cables on the floor and above in the bays all the way to the engine compartment. lvmci...
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: Van on April 05, 2022, 03:21:13 PM
Wireless setups don't like to transmit thru steel and aluminum. I ran my cables on the floor and above in the bays all the way to the engine compartment. lvmci...

  :^
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: sledhead on April 06, 2022, 04:42:39 AM
  :^

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Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: chessie4905 on April 06, 2022, 05:46:00 AM
The one on the tt has a power source, but thats all. Monitor in truck about 45 feet away. There is a signal booster in bed under cap. Used all summer and never a signal problem. Camera gets its power from clearance lights. Mine is a Furrion. Solar should work just as well as long as booster is used. My booster is very small, about the size as a small box of wood matches.
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: lvmci on April 06, 2022, 09:30:32 AM
Don't forget to wrap the camera cables in the radiator or engine compartment in some kind of heat protection, lvmci...
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: Sebulba on April 06, 2022, 12:12:15 PM
These seem to list a distance of 30 feet. Do you have any experience with one working 35+ feet from camera to monitor on a bus?

I looked at lots of cameras designed for cars but at the time couldn't find one that would covert the distance without the transmitter mounted inside. Still wireless in that you don't need to run wires all the way front-to-rear, but not totally.

I chose not to go wireless.  It seems like 40 feet was a bit of a challenge for some of them.

Seb
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: Sebulba on April 06, 2022, 12:14:33 PM
Don't forget to wrap the camera cables in the radiator or engine compartment in some kind of heat protection, lvmci...

I am putting them in a plastic wire loom and I don't think they are in an areas that get's terribly hot.  Not close to the engine and not on the hot side of the radiators or directly in front of the radiators.

Seb
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: Sebulba on April 06, 2022, 12:18:06 PM
Well, I got it all installed and it looks good.

If I could have gone higher I think I could have a longer scope of distance, but not by much.  As is I can basically see from ball to back bumper of the car.  That will be good for monitoring that, but I really do want to see wheat is behind the car.  Fortunately I bought the unit that can have 2 cameras.  So, I ordered another camera and cable.  This will see what is behind the toad.

I am pleased.

Seb
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: epretot on April 07, 2022, 04:25:40 AM
@ seb

I also used a wired system. My uncle installed "drivecam" cameras in coaches for several years.

At the time they discouraged the use of wireless for latency reasons.

While they used the backups, the primary install was for an interior image of the coach. Both driver and passengers.

This is where I put mine.



Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: Sebulba on April 08, 2022, 03:54:11 PM
@ seb

I also used a wired system. My uncle installed "drivecam" cameras in coaches for several years.

At the time they discouraged the use of wireless for latency reasons.

While they used the backups, the primary install was for an interior image of the coach. Both driver and passengers.

This is where I put mine.

Interesting, it looks like it is mounted to the running light lens?

Seb
Title: Re: Next: putting in the rear camera.
Post by: epretot on April 08, 2022, 07:49:37 PM
Interesting, it looks like it is mounted to the running light lens?

Seb

Yes. I used the existing hole to feed it through. Three carefully placed pilot holes and some silicone to keep water out of the clearance light
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