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Title: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: Seangie on February 19, 2014, 03:37:07 PM
We are moving on through the rest of Texas next week.  San Antonio will be missed for sure.  We are off to Big Bend and then Demming NM to visit some friends.  We are looking for suggestions and places to visit and stay as we drive up through AZ on our way to Las Vegas to visit Van and the crew out there.

So any suggestions on scenic routes and must visit places on the way through AZ?

Thanks all!

-Sean

Fulltiming somewhere in the USA
1984 Eagle 10S
www.herdofturtles.org (http://www.herdofturtles.org)
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: lvmci on February 19, 2014, 04:33:36 PM
Hi Sean, if you take I40 or I10, Needles to Bull Head City, say hi to Clifford and Sonja, are you working in LV? Another prevost at B&B must be 7 or 8 buses there. Lvmci...p.s. please bring my cigar box from Cliffords if you see him!
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: Cary and Don on February 19, 2014, 04:41:20 PM
A little out of the way,  but ZION.  We really enjoyed the place.

Don and Cary
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: dukegrad98 on February 19, 2014, 04:43:01 PM
Avoid as much reservation road as possible, and where it cannot be avoided, watch your speed limit like a hawk.  Logic, rationale, U.S. law and due process, and good pavement are not often found on the reservations.

Cheers, John
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: FolkBus on February 19, 2014, 05:27:04 PM
I disagree with John...take as many reservation roads as is possible.  Use common sense while driving them as you do with all roads.  The scenery is spectacular and being off of the beatin' path is always very refreshing.

--Mike
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: Melbo on February 19, 2014, 05:30:40 PM
If you take I 10 I like Texas Canyon --- there is a rest area there to park in and look about.

Melbo
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: eagle19952 on February 19, 2014, 05:36:10 PM
Before you get to Big Bend just a bit before the entrance, maybe a few miles....there is a very good old family ranch/RV Park called Stillwell Ranch....very kid friendly and bluegrass/country western flavor and historical to boot. Try it for a few days, you may find that commuting in and out o the park is worth it....we did.  ;D Study Butte is worth the ride thru the park to stock up on lettuce and fresh veggies if you don't before you get there...or stay long enough to run out...
IRRC....Van Horn is your last chance. Marathon is kind of $ gougey $...
http://sweetheartsofthewest.blogspot.com/2013/02/hallie-crawford-stillwell-grande-dame.html (http://sweetheartsofthewest.blogspot.com/2013/02/hallie-crawford-stillwell-grande-dame.html)

http://stillwellstore.com/ (http://stillwellstore.com/)

if you are thinking of Chisos Basin CG.....scout it out first....especially pulling the toad....I don't think it is doable...

we loved it there. stayed about a month.

The saddle shop in Alpine ( going west on 90 when u leaveis nicer than US 10) the kids and adults might like...near a DQ.

Wear seat belts and drive the speed limit or less near Fort Hancock, TX.... >:(
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: hatchhome on February 19, 2014, 05:39:31 PM
I have never traveled this in a Bus but take 70 from lordsburg and go up through safford and globe (I don't care for Globe, no one does) :-) then on 188 to Payson (where I grew up). Then over the mogollon rim. From there you can goto Jerome or Sedona. Then onto Flagstaff and I agree take some backroads by the grand canyon and on into Vegas. Thats the way I would go :)
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: lvmci on February 19, 2014, 08:59:10 PM
Sean, the fwy to Sedona is good, stay in Sedona at Oak Creek rv park, right on the river, dont take the bus to Jerome or up the oak canyon to Flagstaff if you want to go that way, far to severe climbs, past flagstaff is williams, az. Best pie shop on rt66, near entrance to Grand Canyon, the Pine Country Restaurant,  also steam and diesel train to thhe Canyon, KOA park along with a couple others, nice trip, lvmci...
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: TomC on February 20, 2014, 07:24:34 AM
About 40 miles east of Tucson is Kartchner Caverns just south off I-10. Worth seeing because it is a "live" cave-still humid and dripping. They've taken great pains to keep the humidity in by going through a series of doors to get in. There is also an attached RV park that is quite nice.
Also just south of Tucson off I-19 is the Titan museum-very interesting. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: luvrbus on February 20, 2014, 09:19:02 AM
We just drove I 10 from Quartzsite Az to exit 810 in Anahauc  Tex that is one long @$# drive plenty of ways to go to AZ without 10 and 40 but more to on I 40 than I 10 plenty of state and federal parks along the way and Albuquerque is a neat city with some great Eagle owners there 

If you drive the speed limit on I 10 west at 80 mph not much to see lol we will be going back to AZ on old US 90 I had enough of I 10 for awhile
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: edvanland on February 20, 2014, 10:39:32 AM
Sean
If you come up I17 to hwy 260 and are going to sedona let me know, I know of a great place to park for a few days, has electric, & water. It is half way between Sedona & Cottonwood; Send me a E mail at edvan@q.com, o yes by the way we live here so rent will be a cold adult beverage.
ED & Janet
MCI 7
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: lvmci on February 20, 2014, 03:30:49 PM
Dont forget Tombstone on the south eastern edge of AZ, the kids will love it, lvmci...
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: georgemci102a2 on February 20, 2014, 03:51:18 PM
Sean, If your taking I-10 west after leaving deming ya might want to check out the tripple t truck stop at mile marker 268 just before tucson,lots of parking and tire shop etc.also free dump station. :D...ps tombstone would be cool place to check out like lvmci said.ya could be an extra in a western movie if there filming one ;D...George
Title: Re: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: Seangie on February 20, 2014, 04:22:11 PM
Gosh Darn it....y'all are making me have to bust out the map now.

LV Tom - Ill definitely grab that Cigar box if Clifford is home and will have us!  I hope we get to hang out with you a bit in LV.  No work in Vegas but close by.

Don & Cary - Zion is on our list of must visit places but we are waiting on warmer weather for that trip.  I  cannot wait to see Zion.

Ed - I think I could definitely swing an adult beverage or two. 

Thanks all.  This board is awesome.

-Sean

Fulltiming somewhere in the USA
1984 Eagle 10S
www.herdofturtles.org (http://www.herdofturtles.org)
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: LowTide on February 21, 2014, 03:26:51 PM
Looks like most have mentioned the good spots as you come in from Tucson. I you don't mind going a little out of the way once you hit Phoenix, try the Sedona area, Montezuma well and Montezuma Castle.

Here is a link to the Castle; http://www.nps.gov/moca/index.htm (http://www.nps.gov/moca/index.htm)
Link to the well: http://www.nps.gov/moca/planyourvisit/exploring-montezuma-well.htm (http://www.nps.gov/moca/planyourvisit/exploring-montezuma-well.htm)
NOTE: the Castle and well are not suited for big rigs, you may want to drive your toad in...parking for smaller vehicles.

Here are a couple Sedona RV park links....there are more out there.
http://ranchosedona.com/ (http://ranchosedona.com/)
http://www.rioverdervpark.com/ (http://www.rioverdervpark.com/)
If you want to go further, then you may want to try the Grand Canyon.

Be sure to check the weather for those areas.....they may have snow.

Once you get up to where Van is, be sure to go visit the valley of fire.....absolutely awesome!
http://www.valley-of-fire.com/ (http://www.valley-of-fire.com/)

Good luck and have a fantastic trip!

Mike
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: wagwar on February 21, 2014, 03:33:51 PM
One of the most scenic and spectacular drives I have ever taken is the state road west out of Big Bend Nat. Park to Presidio, TX. Take your time and enjoy the vistas.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: Seangie on March 04, 2014, 09:14:36 AM
One of the most scenic and spectacular drives I have ever taken is the state road west out of Big Bend Nat. Park to Presidio, TX. Take your time and enjoy the vistas.

Jim - We left Big Bend yesterday and followed 170 out to Presidio.  What an amazing drive that was!

Absolutely breathtaking and you gotta have your A game on driving it.  That 15% grade going through the canyon slowed us down to 8mph while towing the 4 ton van.  Had me worried for a minute that we would slow to a halt :)

-Sean


Fulltiming somewhere in the USA
1984 Eagle 10S
www.herdofturtles.org (http://www.herdofturtles.org)
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: wg4t50 on March 04, 2014, 10:25:17 AM
Van Horn, Tx, seems everyone that has stoped there got a parking ticket, even if your in the truck stop in a RV looking vehicle, expect a ticket or got the to RV park, they seem to have bought the police dept. Other forums all have lots of negative info about Van Horn Tx, bypass it if you can.
I have never been there, but know some that have and got tickets for eating lunch in their RV.
Dave M
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: luvrbus on March 04, 2014, 11:43:12 AM
Never heard that before Dave we go thru Van Horn 3 times a year we spend the night at a grocery on the west end of town beside a Motel 6 then across the street is a city park where you can sleep for the night,plus Pilot and Loves 

They did get upset a few years back when the people would park in the wide marked area on the main street with the slides out into the traffic The big RV park has closed there is only a couple of small ones open in that town there is no WalMart the last would be the new one Ft Stockton till you reach El Paso fwiw   
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: dukegrad98 on March 04, 2014, 11:48:09 AM
... Ft Stockton till you reach El Paso fwiw   

Whew...I stopped at a La Quinta motel in Ft. Stockton a few years ago on a Phoenix-to-Houston run in a car.  That was the filthiest place I have ever been -- actually slept on top of the bed with my clothes on.  Not a problem if you're traveling by coach, but I wouldn't so much as tap the brakes going past that town again.

Now cruising I-10 at a steady 80-90mph...that some good pavement and an enjoyable drive.

Cheers, John
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: luvrbus on March 04, 2014, 12:26:29 PM
I like the Texas Autobahn myself a Texas Trooper told me he writes more tickets now than he ever did before mostly for over 95 mph
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: Bill B /bus on March 04, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
Tombstone Territories RV Park, a Passport America park, convenient to Tombstone, Ft Huachua (sp?),Bisbee. We prefer Bisbee over Tombstone as Tombstone always has their hand out for money.

Oatman has the best ever "shootout". Do not try to take the bus there.

Zion is fun as you're seeing the canyon from the bottom.

Just some thoughts.

Bill
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: wg4t50 on March 04, 2014, 04:44:22 PM
Never heard that before Dave we go thru Van Horn 3 times a year we spend the night at a grocery on the west end of town beside a Motel 6 then across the street is a city park where you can sleep for the night,plus Pilot and Loves

** Copied from a forum**
RV'ers traveling east and west on I-10 in west Texas may find themselves with a ticket if they stop in Van Horn, Texas, when not staying in a campground.
The ordinance wording allows Law Enforcement to assume all stops, any time of day or night are for sleeping, allowing an $85 ticket to be issued.
Stays over 4 hours is mentioned, but is much easier to avoid RV Unfriendly towns than to argue over a sheriff’s stopwatch accuracy.
We understand that there are no signs on the recent ordinance that target RVers and not trucks.

An RVer stated they pulled into the truck stop parking area, where they have stayed many times before, right behind McDonalds for a nap and breakfast.
When they awoke several hours later, there was a ticket taped to the windshield.
“Violation of City of Van Horn ordinance 12/2010. Fine of $85 payable by money order only."
Here is a link to the Anti-RV Ordinance:  Title 12 - STREETS, SIDEWALKS AND PUBLIC PLACES.

The City Manager has said she was pressured by the RV Parks in her City to enforce the Ordinance.
***

No Idea, just alot of yakking about how bad the Van Horn town was, Hope it has mproved as the FMCA and other RV types have been trying to get the law changed.  As Mentioned, I never been there, but the name Van Horn perks up the ears.
Good luck to one and all.
Dave M
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: plyonsMC9 on March 04, 2014, 07:46:04 PM
We recently moved to AZ and love it!   

If you can make it further north as Mike said - The Williamson train to the Grand Canyon is an absolute blast.  And you can make a 1 - 2 day trip of it if you'd like.  Entertainment on the train, wonderful sites, and of course, the Canyon. 
The train :  http://www.thetrain.com/?gclid=CPqQ7c7B-rwCFcURMwodTnQAtg (http://www.thetrain.com/?gclid=CPqQ7c7B-rwCFcURMwodTnQAtg)

Sedona is fun.  Prescott used to be the capital of AZ and is worth a visit as well.  We've got a few other ideas as well for up north.  Also, if you need a place up here to stay for a couple of days, we have 50 AM hookups, water & sewer at our bus-friendly property in Prescott Valley.  IM me if we can be of assistance or you'd like to set a spell up here.  No charge of course for a certified bus enthusiast.   ;D

Kind Regards, Phil
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: LowTide on March 05, 2014, 02:11:27 AM
Stay away from Flagstaff, they are an unfriendy RV town.....not worth the visit or to spend any of your money with....2 cents.

Link to Article:
http://gypsyjournal.net/Unfriendly.html (http://gypsyjournal.net/Unfriendly.html)
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: scanzel on March 05, 2014, 05:44:49 AM
I looked at the no RV's in the Gypsy Journal and don't like it either but then again you cannot blame some of the towns. Some rv users have ruined it for others and leave the towns/cities no choice but to ban. Also if everyone parks for free anywhere some rv parks will just go out of business, especially in the more remote areas. A friend of ours lives in Arizona and some Home Depot parking lots were becoming camp ground with trailers, rv's etc just setting up camp for days. No wonder they put bans on especially when they leave trash behind.
Title: Re: Suggestions for driving through AZ
Post by: luvrbus on March 05, 2014, 06:34:49 AM
I just know Van Horn has never been a problem for us hell they don't have any RV parks left