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Title: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Scott & Heather on July 28, 2014, 06:08:39 PM
Hi Friends,

Heather and I will be attending Arcadia this year. Looking forward to it! From Arcadia, we will be driving to Keene, TX where we'll be parked for 6 months while I tour there giving concerts. I am well-traveled and have visited nearly all 50 states, but the few I have never set foot in are Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc. We are trying to choose the best and safest route to Texas from Florida. Also interested in scenic, but since we are in a bus with a 9 inch roof raise, we'll have to stick to major highways. Please share your input. If you want full-disclosure and honesty, what I'm really looking for is advice on the safety of the areas we'll be driving through esp in Louisiana, etc. We love to stop at Truck Stops for our overnight stays while on the road, but I won't beat around the bush....I know some parts of these southern states are rough areas and I want to avoid that. We have armament, but my targets of choice are clay pigeons...not people. So please, someone with experience driving this route, chime in and guide us. Here a photo of the three routes possible. My naive preference is to take the southern-most route since it looks like it would be pretty.
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Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: luvrbus on July 28, 2014, 06:54:00 PM
Follow the coast you won't have any problems and one cannot afford to miss New Orleans with the food then head north from Beaumont to bypass Houston, Texas has great state highways through the small towns we drove our bus all over the state plenty of parking along the coastal route
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Pvoth on July 28, 2014, 06:55:49 PM
Um.....What the heck dude....are you scared of white people or black people....gay people....straight people.....all people?......alligators?.....mosquitoes?...ok.... you have guns.....got it.....in the words of David Bowe....I'm afraid of Americans......treat everyone with dignity and respect and you will have not any worries....ever!
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Scott & Heather on July 28, 2014, 07:10:11 PM
Um.....What the heck dude....are you scared of white people or black people....gay people....straight people.....all people?......alligators?.....mosquitoes?...ok.... you have guns.....got it.....in the words of David Bowe....I'm afraid of Americans......treat everyone with dignity and respect and you will have not any worries....ever!

Apparently you have not experienced the worst of humanity...unfortunately, being an Indian, and my family being Muslim, me being Christian, married to a Caucasian girl...I've seen some interesting stuff. I get stopped for hours at customs (never fails) pulled over 3 times in 1 hour driving through Arizona to be asked if I was planning on taking my rental car across the border to Mexico, and helped to catch a fugitive in an African American community which made me enemy number 1 there...yeah, I'm asking for obvious reasons. I just want a nice drive...no stops in rough towns. Check this out. New Orleans has one of the worst violent crime rates of the country:

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/la/new-orleans/crime/ (http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/la/new-orleans/crime/)
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: eagle19952 on July 28, 2014, 07:12:36 PM

New Orleans is nice but not easy in a coach on the cheep...
Tallahassee to Pensacola....I would spend a week or so on the west end of Santa Rosa Island...Fort Pickens...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Santarosaislandshore.jpg/440px-Santarosaislandshore.jpg)
Orange Beach in Alabama...
There is a cheepnice RV park in Buffalo TX near Palestine TX ...

There's a bus nut in Franklin TX..
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Scott & Heather on July 28, 2014, 07:13:35 PM
Follow the coast you won't have any problems and one cannot afford to miss New Orleans with the food then head north from Beaumont to bypass Houston, Texas has great state highways through the small towns we drove our bus all over the state plenty of parking along the coastal route

Thanks Cliff. That's helpful. I definitely want to try the local cuisine :) Anything or anywhere special we should look for?
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Scott & Heather on July 28, 2014, 07:19:50 PM
head over towards College Station...up to Waco...
New Orleans is nice but not easy in a coach on the cheep...
Tallahassee to Pensacola....I would spend a week or so on the west end of Santa Rosa Island...Fort Pickens...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Santarosaislandshore.jpg/440px-Santarosaislandshore.jpg)
Orange Beach in Alabama...
There is a cheepnice RV park in Buffalo TX near Palestine TX ...

There's a bus nut in Franklin TX..

Nice..thanks!
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: luvrbus on July 28, 2014, 07:23:50 PM
On the west bank of the Mississippi is a wonderful state park at Westwego La named Bayou Segnette State Park we park there and do our tour of NO about 15 minutes from downtown and the French Quarter

good luck  
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Scott & Heather on July 28, 2014, 07:27:50 PM
On the west bank of the Mississippi is a wonderful state park at Westwego La named Bayou Segnette State Park we park there and do our tour of NO about 15 minutes from downtown and the French Quarter

good luck  

Perfect. This is exactly what I was looking for...prices are reasonable too. Thanks Cliff
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: luvrbus on July 28, 2014, 07:35:59 PM
287 from Beaumont to Ennis is a lot better drive then over to Cleburne for me any way and traffic is a bitch around Bryan and Collage Station, Scott you need not worry about New Orleans you are not going to be in the Wards there or shouldn't be  ::)
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: eagle19952 on July 28, 2014, 07:37:15 PM
Fort Pickens, Santa Rosa Island FL.


http://www.nps.gov/guis/planyourvisit/campground-openings-in-florida-and-mississippi-districts.htm (http://www.nps.gov/guis/planyourvisit/campground-openings-in-florida-and-mississippi-districts.htm)

PS Clifford I was thinking more like turning north out of Beaumont to Crockett the Palestine to Bufffalo to Mexia...Hillsboro to Cleburne...

Keene seems awful close to DFW/Arlington for me...If a few more miles away works I would look down in Glen Rose....real nice city park there...IMO.

or maybe Cleburne....is that area still saturated with them there scary oilfield hands...:)

Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Pvoth on July 28, 2014, 07:52:40 PM
Apparently you have not experienced the worst of humanity...unfortunately, being an Indian, and my family being Muslim, me being Christian, married to a Caucasian girl...I've seen some interesting stuff. I get stopped for hours at customs (never fails) pulled over 3 times in 1 hour driving through Arizona to be asked if I was planning on taking my rental car across the border to Mexico, and helped to catch a fugitive in an African American community which made me enemy number 1 there...yeah, I'm asking for obvious reasons. I just want a nice drive...no stops in rough towns. Check this out. New Orleans has one of the worst violent crime rates of the country:

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/la/new-orleans/crime/ (http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/la/new-orleans/crime/)

Honestly man you gotta chill with this fraddy cat stuff......all beings can smell fear......but no one is out to get you...there is no you radar......and anything you have seen I and others have lived....twice...just relax, smile, be nice and for god sakes leave the weapons at home and if your that scared stay on the interstate where you only have to fear serial killer truck drivers, soccer moms in mini vans and drunk crackheads with bodies in their trunks....and really, honestly your post is kinda racist, I mean what the heck is an African American community? Could you offend anyone else....you never mentioned Asians, Indians, Europeans, Canadians or Moon people. May God bless you and have safe journey.
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: luvrbus on July 28, 2014, 08:28:07 PM
Wow where did that come from I never met a bus person that didn't have some type weapon to protect him and his family,hell at the advice from a police officer here I upgrade from a 9MM to a 45. I never leave home without the American Express Card and brother Colt  ::)
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: eagle19952 on July 28, 2014, 09:02:32 PM
Smith and Wesson are pretty good pals....
Inside the bus I'm the judge and jury....

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2cfw60FUa1qdbxh4.jpg)
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: TomC on July 28, 2014, 09:26:20 PM
From Arcadia, I would stay on 19/98 all the way to Pensacola-I drove that route many times in my big rig. I would not go to New Orleands, but instead stay on I-12 to bypass. Be sure to see the SS Alabama in Mobile, Alabama. It is the only battleship that you can see the inner workings of the big 17" guns. Then take I-49 back up to I-20 and go into the metro area that way. Course, once you're in Texas, any road is good. How much interstate you do depends on the time you have. The Fort Walton Beach/Destin area is one of my favorites-course most anywhere along the pan handle is great. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: oldmansax on July 29, 2014, 04:40:38 AM
Honestly man you gotta chill with this fraddy cat stuff......all beings can smell fear......but no one is out to get you...there is no you radar......and anything you have seen I and others have lived....twice...just relax, smile, be nice and for god sakes leave the weapons at home and if your that scared stay on the interstate where you only have to fear serial killer truck drivers, soccer moms in mini vans and drunk crackheads with bodies in their trunks....and really, honestly your post is kinda racist, I mean what the heck is an African American community? Could you offend anyone else....you never mentioned Asians, Indians, Europeans, Canadians or Moon people. May God bless you and have safe journey.

You are either naive or uninformed.  Scott originally asked opinions on the safest route. When pressed, he said he was equipped to handle problems but would rather avoid them. Having traveled the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, I can attest to the fact that there are places where trouble will hunt you down and cause problems, no matter your actions or attitudes. The best way to avoid them is to not go there.

TOM
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: gumpy on July 29, 2014, 04:52:29 AM
My wife and I just did a motorcycle trip across AL and MS on 278 and angled up to Little Rock area. It's a little north of your indicated route, but it's a good road
with some scenery. I did this same route in the bus a few years ago. I had no qualms about the safety issues. There were plenty of places to stop where I would
have felt safe, and overnighted in a truck small truck stop parking lot with no problems.

You're right to question this, and prudent to have your protection with you and anyone who claims otherwise is a fool.
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Pvoth on July 29, 2014, 05:51:19 AM
You are either naive or uninformed.  Scott originally asked opinions on the safest route. When pressed, he said he was equipped to handle problems but would rather avoid them. Having traveled the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, I can attest to the fact that there are places where trouble will hunt you down and cause problems, no matter your actions or attitudes. The best way to avoid them is to not go there.

TOM

I am neither naïve nor uniformed.....it was the racial overtones that I refer too and object to....safe roads are one thing.....hate and bigotry are quite another and could be a violation of federal law....surly the folks that moderate this board are not complicate with these actions.
And you are correct trouble may at times find you.....but your gun will make it worse in almost all situations....I personally don't require a gun( though I do own several  ) to defend myself nor to cause harm to others.....and if in fact you are stating that you illegally took your gun to Mexico or the Canada then you violated their federal laws and you deserve the punishment get when break the laws of other counties.

So race should have been left out of the post....because race, hate, fear and guns don't mix and it was no I who brought it up I only pointed it out.
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: luvrbus on July 29, 2014, 06:01:48 AM
Man you need to take the race card BS to MSNBC it doesn't happen here
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Pvoth on July 29, 2014, 06:27:06 AM
Man you need to take the race card BS to MSNBC it doesn't happen here

Wow really? Ok lets change race to NRA and MSNBC to Fox....I happens everywhere...man.

Scott I'm very sorry about hijacking your post as I said race should have been left out....you seem like nice guy, but you also seem to be aware that race bias is hurtful as you stated. when comes down to it I'm on your side.

Stay on State hiways or the Interstates less clearance issues and bad road conditions as for "people" your on you own....but I got your back. peace!
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Boomer on July 29, 2014, 06:37:25 AM
Hey pvoth, what kind of bus do you own?
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Mex-Busnut on July 29, 2014, 07:22:54 AM
Scott:

Let me second the suggestions of Orange Beach/Gulf Shores Alabama area. Very beautiful! Also, as former news director and DJ @ KHIM Christian Radio in Palestine, TX, East Texas has some amazing places to visit. Dogwood trees, the Rusk TX historical railroad, etc. I cannot remember if you are pulling a toad or not. 60 miles from Palestine, Tyler TX has the rose festival. Tyler is one of the major rose-producing areas in the U. S.

We have several board members in Tyler and Palestine.

Then there is a lot to see farther South around Brenham, TX., such as the Bluebell Icecream plant and the awesome hamburgers at the Brenham Municipal Airport.

You might consider NOT skipping Houston and seeing the NASA Space Center. I am sure more than one here can give you details of doing it in a bus. (I have not.)

Yes: The SS Alabama is certainly worth a visit. What is the name of the submarine docked next to it?

Mexico and arms are mentioned above. WARNING!! Unless you would like to enjoy 3 years as a guest in a Mexican federal prison and donating your bus and its entire contents to the Mexican government, do not ever cross the border with ANY firearm in your vehicle.

And yes: Hopefully mister Pvoth will radically change his tune. Totally uncivil and out of line.
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: luvrbus on July 29, 2014, 07:30:29 AM
We White Wing hunted in Mexico for 25 years all it took was a permit with a letter from the sheriff to carry your shot gun in but no pistols of any kind 
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Mex-Busnut on July 29, 2014, 07:35:23 AM
We White Wing hunted in Mexico for 25 years all it took was a permit with a letter from the sheriff to carry your shot gun in but no pistols of any kind 
How long ago was that? Please be sure to check with the Mexican Consulate.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/06/world/americas/mexico-u-s-marine-detained/ (http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/06/world/americas/mexico-u-s-marine-detained/)
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: luvrbus on July 29, 2014, 08:20:07 AM
It was back in the late 60's through the early 80's I never had a problem with my shot guns. It"s no big deal if you want a gun in Mexico our DOJ and Holder here in the USA will ship one to you ::)
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Runcutter on July 29, 2014, 08:31:13 AM
Scott, if you do stop in the New Orleans area, Jefferson Transit has bus service from Westwego that'll take you into downtown New Orleans - if you don't have, or don't want to uncouple a toad.  I've worked with them a couple of times, they provide pretty good service.

Leaving Westwego, the most direct route back across the river is the Huey P. Long Bridge. If you think you're going that way, you might want to do a Google Maps Street View.  Two narrow lanes, steep climb/decent.  Trucks & buses use it regularly, but street view will let you gauge your comfort level early.  There's another crossing further west (310), but I've never gone that way.

When you get to our area (Dallas), it looks like you can skirt the southern part of town -- I-20 or 287 to 67, depending on how you get into the area.  That's your safest routing.  Dallas traffic is a mess, and roads are torn up all over the place -- so stay as far away as possible.  I pucker up in my car when I have to go from the north side through Dallas to the south side.  Easy to be in the wrong lane through multiple mixmasters.  If you come through the area of I-35 (East) and I-20, the 60 MPH speed limit means what it says.  A couple of cities get a lot of their revenue from the interstate.

Arthur  
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: luvrbus on July 29, 2014, 08:46:00 AM
I love that old Huey Long Bridge the lanes are narrow I remember 11 ft wide each but plenty of room for a bus , the view and crossing the mighty Mississippi is well worth the pucker factor, people are never in a rush crossing the HP bridge they just have a slow even pace
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Dreamscape on July 29, 2014, 11:08:41 AM
Pitvoth, The poster asked questions regarding a route. No racial slur or comment was made. Please refrain from making such statements. Yes this board is moderated, and nothing he said was out of line.

Please go back and modify your replies or one of the moderators will.

No personal attacks are allowed here.

Let's keep the topic in line with the questions asked.

Paul
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: DKO on July 29, 2014, 12:19:03 PM
Scott,

No matter which road you take from Florida to Texas you have already taken the high road on this thread and I commend you for it. I also commend the guys that spoke up politely and firmly for you.

The states you will be passing through have some great beauty and nice things to see and enjoy. Take your time if possible and soak it all up. They also have some of the best food you will ever stick a fork in.

Davy

Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: eagle19952 on July 29, 2014, 12:30:44 PM
If you drag your feet till spring a crawfish boil anywhere east of Beumont is a special treat....if you see people eating with surgical gloves on you know your in the right place.... ;D

PS the tent feeds allow you to bring a cooler full of beer and pop to sit on...
PSS I eat the ones that are for the less practiced... :-\
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: HighTechRedneck on July 29, 2014, 03:25:48 PM
Scott, as someone who lives in the South and has traveled most parts of the country, including the South, my observation is that it is no more dangerous or less dangerous than any other part of the country.  As long as you follow the same common sense safety precautions as you would elsewhere, you will do just fine.  I have traveled I-10, I-20, I-40, several north/south interstates, and many 2-lane highways in the South and never had a problem.

The South holds many great scenic and historic experiences.  Take your time, enjoy the trip, trust your instincts, and follow the same safety precautions you would anywhere else.
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: gumpy on July 29, 2014, 03:30:27 PM
Wow really? Ok lets change race to NRA and MSNBC to Fox....I happens everywhere...man.

Scott I'm very sorry about hijacking your post as I said race should have been left out....you seem like nice guy, but you also seem to be aware that race bias is hurtful as you stated. when comes down to it I'm on your side.

Stay on State hiways or the Interstates less clearance issues and bad road conditions as for "people" your on you own....but I got your back. peace!

You need to go back and reread the original post. Nowhere in that post did he mention anything about any particular race, be it white, black, yellow or green. He mentioned some specific southern states that he felt uncomfortable in, though he didn't elaborate on why. It was you who jumped on the race band wagon and accused him of purporting racism. And, just so you know. falsely accusing someone of racism because you want it to be racism is in itself racism.

Maybe you should drop the race thing and get on with the discussion of buses, or go somewhere where there is a legitimate race fight. There isn't one here. Nor is there a 2nd Amendment fight here. Let's keep it that way. This site is about buses.

craig


Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: HighTechRedneck on July 29, 2014, 03:31:31 PM
It was back in the late 60's through the early 80's I never had a problem with my shot guns. It"s no big deal if you want a gun in Mexico our DOJ and Holder here in the USA will ship one to you ::)

Clifford, I definitely wouldn't try it now. In recent years they have taken a very hard stance against tourists with guns.  There is a former Marine rotting in a jail cell in Mexico for crossing the border with a gun.
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: gumpy on July 29, 2014, 03:36:46 PM
As a suggestion to Scott, if you mark your route and publicize it here (the image you posted was less pretty small to be seen and didn't seem to enlarge any), you might find that there are busnuts along the way who would be happy to invite you to stay with them as your travel across the country. I know of a few people along your route that would welcome you if you were in the area.
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: HighTechRedneck on July 29, 2014, 03:50:22 PM

 There isn't one [race fight] here. Nor is there a 2nd Amendment fight here. Let's keep it that way. This site is about buses.


Truer words never said, this forum has members of every ethnicity and social background, and although there have been disagreements on the forum, there has never been an issue of race.  Let's stick to being helpful and friendly.  We are all family here - a bus nut family.

Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: Scott & Heather on July 29, 2014, 04:23:50 PM
This is good info! I'm logging some of this down because I'm excited to experience the southern culture. Sorry the thread got a little mixed up. I promise I wasn't trying to start anything.  :-\   We are staying for 6 months in Keene btw starting in January. I'm wanting to meet some Texas nuts there.... :)
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: robertglines1 on July 29, 2014, 04:56:03 PM
St.Andrews stare park at Panama City Beech++++  Topsail hill at Destin ++++ Henderson Beach at Destin +++ all state parks in Florida.. Gulf Shores Ala great.  Expect low 30's in Jan (nite) warms nice during day.   Bob
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: luvrbus on July 29, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
We get in that part of Texas in the late spring,my sister in law still lives in Alvarado after the death of brother and I have a nephew that lives in Eagn so now why are you parking in Keene  ::)are you staying at the RV Ranch there ?
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: shelled on July 30, 2014, 12:54:00 AM
Scott,

A few thoughts from a native...

I35 defines the change from east Texas weather to west Texas weather.  On the west side, weather is much more dramatic from icy blue northers in the winter to tornados in the spring and early summer.  Winter in this part of Texas used to last from mid-January to mid-February but with global warming has been extending a month earlier and later.  If you are here for 6 months, you will miss the serious heat the starts in July and tends to be several degrees F hotter on the west side.

Coming from the east, hitting I35 any farther north than Hillsboro on your way in is a BIG mistake.  This means do not come from the east on I20.  I35 splits just out of Hillsboro and the west branch will take you straight into Keene.  I have not been on this section of 35 recently so hopefully someone else can chime in regarding highway construction on this road.

Welcome to Texas !
Title: Re: Need some help planning my route from Florida to Texas
Post by: harleyman_1000 on July 30, 2014, 07:13:34 AM
 I wish I could add my 2 cents worth, but thanks to my buses fuel mileage, I only have a penny ::)