MC8 that says Remanufacturers 1998

[Sebulba]

Bw is normally right, for anyone reading this. However I will say my s60 swap was completed for cheaper then totally rebuilding an 8v92, and transmission, and now slowest I’ve been thru several mountain ranges with toad is 50mph. Doing really good on heat so far, on flat in Nebraska we can’t get hotter then 185. In the mountains I’ve seen it run up to 205 and stabilize. I’d like to install a fan clutch next. Any suggestions on brand or model?

Good info to log away for the future.

Thanks

Seb

[Busted Knuckle]

Since no one else has mentioned it. I saw that you liked the 9 or 12 platforms.
A 12 is a 9 that was re-manufactured by ABC or some other companies they got an upgraded front suspension, better A/C, and new engine/trans along with redoing interior, and exterior.
Other than the upgraded suspension & A/C there is no difference in the 9 or 12 (as the 12's all started out their first life as 9). Yes you will find some 9's with the updated square headlights that MOST, but NOT ALL 12's have! (I know of at least 3 12's that did not get the square headlight conversion, and there are probably a lot more that I haven't personally worked on!)
  BK 

[belfert]

I thought the MC-12 was a bus specifically designed for Greyhound?  It has the 96A3 chassis with mostly an MC-9 body.  At least some had the Series 50 engine.

[Busted Knuckle]

I thought the MC-12 was a bus specifically designed for Greyhound?  It has the 96A3 chassis with mostly an MC-9 body.  At least some had the Series 50 engine.

No the MC-12 is a refurbished 9 that has upgraded 96A suspension and A/C! 
Yes some of the were refitted with 50 series engines and yes were all redone for Greyhound and used until they were sold off.
A friend of mine owned an authorized company that did a lot of the refurbs!
  BK 

[RJ]

No the MC-12 is a refurbished 9 that has upgraded 96A suspension and A/C!

Bryce -

MC-12s were NOT refurbished MC-9s.

MC-12s were a custom order specifically for Greyhound, using the 96A3s chassis below the floor and a slightly modified -9 above the floor, with the roofline being a visual cue. They were built from 1991 to 1998, and were also sold as prison transfer buses.  I see a retired one here in Coeur d'Alene every couple of weeks at one of our hotels. And, as Brian mentioned, the tail-end of MC-12 production came with Series 50 engines.

The 96A3 chassis is quite different than the MC-9s, primarily due to the integration of long-overdue anti-roll bars, of which there is no provision on the -9 chassis for retrofits. The HVAC is quite different also, with much larger condenser compartment with different blowers, a higher capacity compressor, plus an improved evaporator in the HVAC compartment. The rectangular taillight pods, rectangular headlights and different rear view mirror mounts are all part of the 96A3 chassis changes.

The rehab program MC-9s were known as an MC-9S, and these incorporated some of the 96A features, but not all.

Most of this info comes from Larry Plachno's book "Modern Intercity Coaches" and archived articles from "National Bus Trader" magazine.

FWIW & HTH. . .

[luvrbus]

Strange I have a MCI prison bus I been working on for a couple of years the vin plate says MCI 9/12 done by Stewart and Stevenson in 1991 according to the plate,it is a bitch to find parts for I know that

[belfert]

The webpage I found on the MC-12 said that some were sold as prison buses.  The MC-12 was designed for Greyhound, but MCI sold them to anyone who wanted one and some were sold to others.

[Busted Knuckle]

Well I might stand corrected and I might not.
Clifford I understand EXACTLY what you are saying as I have seen the same plates and had the same issues with parts.
Jeff told me that during the late 80's early 90's his company refurbished many 9's and installed those 9/12 badges when done.
His exact description of what they did was rebuilt the front bulkhead and installed 96A suspension, rebuilt the HVAC system using the larger 96A components and put 96A front and rear caps on them and sent them back to Greyhound.
He had a scrap yard of 9 parts some of them were 1/2 buses, but most were just a bunch of scraps and junk. (no complete buses unless it was badly wrecked and most of those were cut in half or more for parts too)
He always had whatever part I needed for a 9, 12, 96A 102A, 102C, D or DL. They got out of the rebuilding part long before the E & J models and refused to operate or work on "that plastic computerized crap"
But he ran A's, C's, D's and DL's until he shut down and sold everything off about 2006.
  BK