MPG redux

[richard5933]

Crude may be down, but I read this morning about the severe shortage of diesel fuel world wide. I must admit that my optimism was premature...

I read about that too. Seems that most of Europe gets their diesel from Russia instead of refining it themselves, so it's not surprising they're having a problem right now.

We refine our own here in the US, but some of it is exported.

[luvrbus]

One can read the facts from other sources besides the internet written by folks in the trench and it only cost a couple hundred dollars a year in a printed magazine.Permits are not issued from the government in a blank form to lay a pipeline without routes and right a way secured they have done the impact studies and engineering. It will be laid Joes order he signed is good till he is replaced in 2024.All Federal and state agencies plus Tribal sign off on a permit at Tenn/Gas we had 11,000 miles of pipelines   

[richard5933]

One can read the facts from other sources besides the internet written by folks in the trench and it only cost a couple hundred dollars a year in a printed magazine...

Whether one reads them in physical printed form like you mention or reads them on the internet, it is possible to read the same exact information. And to your point specifically, many of those magazines written by folks in the trench are ONLY available online, such as Bus Conversion Magazine.

It's also possible to read printed magazines and "scholarly" articles in print which are totally bogus.

The type of media doesn't matter. What matters is being able to discern the difference between fact and fiction, between subjective and objective, etc. Same as it always has been.

[luvrbus]

Whether one reads them in physical printed form like you mention or reads them on the internet, it is possible to read the same exact information. And to your point specifically, many of those magazines written by folks in the trench are ONLY available online, such as Bus Conversion Magazine.

It's also possible to read printed magazines and "scholarly" articles in print which are totally bogus.

The type of media doesn't matter. What matters is being able to discern the difference between fact and fiction, between subjective and objective, etc. Same as it always has been.

I don't care where you get your information but there are better sources ,me I never take the first lie when it comes from the main stream news Fox,CNN or others

[Nova Eona]

The best parts about online content are that it can be corrected in situ (when the author is well intentioned) and that there's often a comment section dedicated to picking it apart (when the author is not).  Now, obviously most comment sections are cesspools full of garbage but when an article is pushing a false or misleading narrative, quite often there's someone somewhere in the comments rebutting with logical arguments and sources to back them up.  These particular commenters can be tricky to find, but usually if you just look for the long paragraphs without words in all caps you can narrow it down.

[richard5933]

I don't care where you get your information but there are better sources ,me I never take the first lie when it comes from the main stream news Fox,CNN or others

I think we both agree here - news broadcasts (regardless of which one) are not reliable sources of facts.

[Dave5Cs]

Although it seems like a lot of people these days get their info from all the talking heads and believe it.
Its funny how both side lie to twist peoples thoughts to what they want them to believe. Or the narrative they have been paid to follow to get their monetary support for toeing the line. Sad the world has come to this.
At least with Magazine publications they can't say "I didn't say that" because it is in print where as the internet can be changed multiple times in seconds.

[lvmci]

Gas Buddy Foundet Patrick De Haan stated today that the recent prices increases of gasoline and diesel over $3.30 per gallon, to $4/$5 per gallon, was the result of Pres. Putin of Russia war on the Ukraine. But the already higher $3.30 a gallon, before Putins disruption of the world fuel market, was driven by the American peoples use of vehicles (and RVs) and supply and demand for vacations and getaways during Covid. PBS News Hour 31March22...

[chessie4905]

Yeah, sure. Good to know...

[luvrbus]

Yeah, sure. Good to know...

LOL fuel prices are set for April not much relief in sight with oil @ 100 bucks + a barrel ,sad when we have political teacher from Berkley over our energy dept that is dumber than a box of rocks   

[fortyniner]

We sort of left Europe out of our energy calculations for the last 20 years it seems.   

I just think we are not very strategic on the long game. We take the opposite strategy from divide and conquer instead incentivize opponents to band together against us.

Arrogance of power perhaps.

 

[TomC]

Just got back from our trip to Pomona then to Tucson and back to Nampa, Idaho. 2600 miles total. Diesel averaged $4.90 and averaged 7.3 mpg on my Kenworth truck conversion (41,000lbs). Good luck, TomC

[Melbo]

Tom

Good to hear that you got it on the road.  I would ask how it drove BUT you have already driven it enough to know.

Melbo and Billie