Author Topic: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On  (Read 18651 times)

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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2025, 01:04:49 PM »
Where can i get relays? Ive tested all the relays in the allison control module and they clicked - however, quite a few of them are discolored on the bottoms. the really is a Bosch 0 332 209 215 24volt.

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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2025, 06:06:00 PM »
I buy from www.mouser.com in Texas 800-340-6873 they don't sell junk relays ,relays can click and still don't work,I use the HECS tester from www.hecstransitparts.com they are not cheap but easy to use made in the USA (619-258-7377),Van gave me one for Christmas and I love it you can load a relay to check to see if it drops voltage
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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2025, 11:57:35 AM »
I use the HECS tester from www.hecstransitparts.com they are not cheap but easy to use made in the USA (619-258-7377)
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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2025, 04:14:02 AM »
I saw on F/B where he got power to the fuse and is up and running, you guys with the B500 need to locate the 10A fuse because it going to give you problems. It is one of the largest rip off with shops replacing the shift pad for a 50 cent fuse or a corroded power supply to the fuse. The WT like the B500 is a smart cookie with a mind of it's own they tell the engine what it wants not like the old days when the engine controlled the transmission   
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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2025, 12:30:59 PM »
I've got the B500 in mine, do I need to go looking for a fuse just so I know where it is? Is that the message here? I can do that if I know where to look.

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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2025, 12:35:01 PM »
I saw on F/B where he got power to the fuse and is up and running, you guys with the B500 need to locate the 10A fuse because it going to give you problems. It is one of the largest rip off with shops replacing the shift pad for a 50 cent fuse or a corroded power supply to the fuse. The WT like the B500 is a smart cookie with a mind of it's own they tell the engine what it wants not like the old days when the engine controlled the transmission

Clifford I learned a LONG TIME AGO to listen to your advice! I try to tell these newbies to do so as well.
Like you I have had the same experiences with that power supply more than once. But thanks to you, I learned to check it FIRST!
There have been SOO MANY other things that you were spot on too.
too be totally honest, I can't ever remember you giving advice that wasn't 100% spot on.

It would be nice if he would have posted here to let us know the results.
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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2025, 12:35:50 PM »
I've got the B500 in mine, do I need to go looking for a fuse just so I know where it is? Is that the message here? I can do that if I know where to look.

Jim

Jim read the post under yours!
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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2025, 07:25:57 AM »
Yeah so could somebody go out there with your phone and take a picture of that fuse? I'd have no idea which one it might be, and it'd be great to get some clue about what it might look like before digging around in that panel. Seems to me there are a lot of things in there that might be mistaken for it.

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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2025, 08:40:54 AM »
Yeah so could somebody go out there with your phone and take a picture of that fuse? I'd have no idea which one it might be, and it'd be great to get some clue about what it might look like before digging around in that panel. Seems to me there are a lot of things in there that might be mistaken for it.

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Jim ,if you do utube Yvan Lacroix has a video of where the fuse is on your DL,he was stressed when he call but I told were the fuse was and he found it,I don't have any photos 
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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2025, 11:31:33 AM »
Sorry if this has been asked before. But have you tried starting the bus by directly energizing the solenoid on the starter?


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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2025, 12:13:36 PM »
Sorry if this has been asked before. But have you tried starting the bus by directly energizing the solenoid on the starter?


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Re: J4500/E4500 Won’t Start – Retarder Applied Light Stays On
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2025, 10:58:55 AM »
Jim ,if you do utube Yvan Lacroix has a video of where the fuse is on your DL,he was stressed when he call but I told were the fuse was and he found it,I don't have any photos
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Sorry to say that didn't really help. Apparently he has a metric ton of videos and nothing referring to a fuse or a shifter. Doesn't look like I'm going to find it that way.

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