Quote from: thejumpsuitman on November 27, 2009, 05:46:27 AMI'm sorry, but I could not even remotely imagine someone going through all this "crap" to create a composting system unless that's the only option available. Is it just me? I am just shaking my head over all this.MarcWell let's take your stance on this a little farther.Why would anybody take an old beat up worn out bus that has outlived it's usefullness to it original purpose and throw thousands of dollars and thousands of hours of human labor not to mention the stress and ridicule from others to do what we do when prevost are readily available turnkey?It's not about cost, readily availableness, or time spent it's about accomplishing something that creates a satisfaction within us.Calling someone Else's ideas, dreams or projects stupid or even insinuating such us rude and very short sighted or for a lack of a better term "Stupid"
I'm sorry, but I could not even remotely imagine someone going through all this "crap" to create a composting system unless that's the only option available. Is it just me? I am just shaking my head over all this.Marc
Not at all.All you have to do is be forthcoming with some information.Here: I'll start: You aren't going to find, beg, borrow, build or use a 'fast composting' toilet without using electricity and/or another heat source.Most of the composting type that I've dealt with are complicated and finicky, they also draw in the area of 150 to 500 watts of electricity for hours at a time.. Usually about 60 watts for the fans alone. BTB, DC fans like used on the DC systems don't work that well and eat a lot more power than their AC counterparts.The motors that turn the turds are another draw that is better left to an AC motor. DC motors have a tendency to burn out.The longer the heat is held at the optimum temperature for composting, the faster it will work... there is the bottle neck. If the heat goes to high, you kill the bacteria, if it's to low, they become dormant.A 200W solar panel will NOT run a composting toilet for the required time to perform it's function.How many times per day will your unit be used? How much liquid will you be putting into it? How large is the compost usable area? Want to talk about incinerating toilets? That is a whole different ballgame.Now, what other information do you want?Ignore away.. it works two ways and I do believe you may be the south bound end of a north bound mule.Quote from: Old Scool Bus on November 27, 2009, 10:05:20 AMSo I guess the bottom line is I will have to find another source of information as to the makeup or how to build the mechanical part of a "Composting" not incinerating or any other type of toilet.
So I guess the bottom line is I will have to find another source of information as to the makeup or how to build the mechanical part of a "Composting" not incinerating or any other type of toilet.
The purpose of this is it can hold up to a years worth of crap without being dumped in a container that is half the size of a black tank. At least manufacturers claim this. They are supposedly odor free and after the composting process the peat moss like substance is environmentally safe.There are several types and methods to accomplish this. Passive or active, manual or automatic, water or waterless, remote storage or self contained.The self contained units have finishing drawers that hold the very fine humus and need emptied accordingly, they also sit very high. cost are about $1,500.00 +The models that go in your basement are much more expensive but you get the appearance of a normal toilet.Now asking me about the power source is in no way needed or helpful and was later confirmed there was very little if any real knowledge about building one. It does not take an absorbent amount of any energy to operate one of these and I have that part covered. And very efficiently.I want to build a box that fits well in my bay, outfit it with a SS drum out of a compact washer, poop down the shoot into it, add some sawdust or coffee grounds to cover smell and help with composting, crank the drum weekly or as needed and let dried finished compost filter through hole as well as any moisture that doesn't evaporate.That is the basic idea but there is much more to it.I have already built a waterless urinal or at least have it half done so the toilet will not get too much fluids.I have googled for months trying to find actual plans with no success I was hping someone actually knew how they are built, but it appears not.
The purpose of this is it can hold up to a years worth of crap without being dumped in a container that is half the size of a black tank.
I want to build a box that fits well in my bay, outfit it with a SS drum out of a compact washer, ...