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Offline uncle ned

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Re: Hot Rod 2 stroke Detroit
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2006, 10:22:36 AM »


tomc

would love to use that door but it has my transmission cooler. removed it from the radiator to help keep my engine from frying heads. just can't seem to find a place for the air to air cooler.

MY engine is not a ta just a hopped up 6v92 with a turbo.

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Offline Lee Bradley

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Re: Hot Rod 2 stroke Detroit
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2006, 12:42:09 PM »
Then again if you really want to hot rod a Detroit check out http://www.bandagbullet.com/bulletspecs.htm

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Re: Hot Rod 2 stroke Detroit
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2006, 07:29:13 PM »
Jerry has got the "cooling, cooling and more cooling" thing right.  Building high HP 2 strokes isn't especially challenging....cooling it in the back of a  bus will be.   650 HP 6V92TT are common enough in high perf marine applications...but they have a very large heat sink.   500 HP 6V92Ts are (were) common in fire apparatus.   You can find used and fresh reman military (tank) 8V71Ts on Ebay...450 HP. 
Wet liner engines are typically easier to cool than cast cylinders...they may have shortcomings for drag racing, but in a bus...have to weigh the benefits carefully.  An 8V92T is hard to beat (in a 2 stroke) for 500 HP in stock form...still, most older buses don't have the rad area to cool such an animal.   Have to reconstruct the coach with a Flexible style air scoop on top with a BIG radiator behind it.   Clearly it could be done.
BTW Kyle, why not just jack up the SC and set it on a Cat 8 big truck chassis.  Everything you need for mid-engine...hook up the air and maybe add an automatic and away you go...you'll need a little welding..but?  I don't do details.   ;)
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Re: Hot Rod 2 stroke Detroit
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2006, 07:48:05 PM »
Mais non, Miseur!

8V92's, intelligently managed, can be cooled,  if you also drive them right.   

Attend the "All you never wanted to know about cooling systems but were afraid to ask seminar at Arcadia in January!

Between RJ Long, Bob Sheaves and yours truly,  most of the mysteries and old wive's tales on cooling should be cleared up!

Onward and Upward

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Re: Hot Rod 2 stroke Detroit
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2006, 01:28:57 AM »
Just to show what cooling is needed- My first truck had the 8V-92TA with 435hp and 1265lb/ft torque.  It had a 1370 sq in 5 row copper/brass radiator that is the same size that is used for a Cat 550hp with 1850lb/ft torque.  Good Luck, TomC
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Re: Hot Rod 2 stroke Detroit
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2006, 05:38:57 AM »
BTW Kyle, why not just jack up the SC and set it on a Cat 8 big truck chassis.  Everything you need for mid-engine...hook up the air and maybe add an automatic and away you go...you'll need a little welding..but?  I don't do details.   ;)
JR

That's the beauty of fantasies & bench racing, you don't need to bother with details. they just spoil the fun!!!  ;D  ;D

(BTW, that truck chassis was exactly what I was thinking of doing.... you know, a center bed room with a side asile, yadda, yadda, yadda.......)
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Re: Hot Rod 2 stroke Detroit
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2006, 09:24:08 AM »
Hey kyle

Since were dreaming ::)

Fix one bus for camping and travling

By somepontoons and turn one into a houseboat.  It'd work as a canal cruiser too, don,t for get the high dive ;D
or put an awning on it, hang some hammocks in it and make it a lakehouse/cabin. :)

Now the other one , lift up and make a hover craft,  save on air bags and tires and still would have the air ride suspension ;D, could go almost any where, use aturbine engine and you want have to worry about the fans and radiators.   :o

More buses means more options and more dreaming available. :D

Us single bussers will have to dream vicariously through you multibussers ;D

Couldn.t resist,  just funnin ya! :D


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It's all fun and games til someone gets hurt. ;)