I'll just keep on burning it in my shop heater.
It would be best to filter the stuff with a super fine filter like a Gulf Coast bypass filter. Then try it in a generator or small engine first. It is important to get the viscosity and burn temp correct. Too much volatiles could burn a hole somewhere in the engine. How about mixing it with winter (thin) diesel?
Reading much thats posted here and on the net, seeing some of the mixtures people are playing with, im not so sure im comfortable with all of it. Adding gasoline and oil together can not only create fuels that burn well, but can fool someone who thinks they are dealing with diesel fuel, something that wont normally burn, and create a real catastrophe when they find out it has the same volatility as Gasoline. You could throw lit matches into a bucket of fuel oil all day long and it wont ever catch fire. Add some Gasoline to it and someone could get a real surprise.That is a valid safety concern. We deal with those regularly and with great success. Now can you hear the uproar if a DOT requirement hit the street that made it a requirement to label alt fuel vehicles tank filling point with a caution and that caution right under the "DIESEL ONLY" sticker. Not to be cute about it. It is also sad to see those old Mercedes diesels being tossed away as has been discussed, and reading that places a great shadow over the whole WVO discussion. How truly bad is WVO to an engine, what kind or real issues have been seen, or might have been seen, had those cars been torn down and inspected? We lost a lot of data by people doing that.We are birds of a feather on that. I lament the loss of recoverable machinery and the stupid disregard for empirical evidence. In this case I think the data is in, analyzed and the scientific conclusions are written. IT WORKS REALLY WELL There are considerations and qualifications attached to that statement. Will it work? That's a moot question. At $4 gallon plus, diesel is expensive, there is no argument there. And my hat is off to Wal in running his Bus on WVO, and I hope the best. But this needs watching. There is so little data on the long term effects that it still appears risky.I disagree and I think a brief investigation will bear out the truth but in the past all evidence was dismissed with some comment such as "Yes, but there are other factors and stuff." The labs and universities that do this testing run engines for hundreds of hours and tear down the engine and project that if the residue peaked at 50 hours and they saw no change over the next 50 hours then the max deposit was that that was seen at the 50 hour run time. Follow that logic? Most of the nay sayers want the test to state what the condition would be at 150 hours and they announce that reservation as though they have exposed a vital flaw in the scientific findings. If you run it for a thousand hours they still pull a reservation out of their but as a question and declare the test invalid. Present company excepted on that.WMO adds yet another angle to the questions of long term effects. How does an injection pump hold up to fuel that is contaminated with acids and metal particles? How hard is it to fully clean and filter it to where its no longer harmful? And how does it burn? Does it build deposits?Now you are talk'n. "How do we fully clean and make it harmless to our engines?" (loosely quoted) I am going with "It can be done cause it is a petro product". The question is how and at what cost. When you consider that older mechanical injected diesels had different injection timing specs for different Cetane rated fuels, or that the DD has different injectors for different applications, or that they use different injectors for Bunker oil than for #2 diesel, then the idea you can simply change the fuel type and viscosity without making any changes to the injectors or injection timing becomes suspect. I for one simply cannot believe you can run any other fuel through a diesel set up to run #2, and expect it to run optimally or without some ill effects. There is a great deal of engineering and testing done on engines to find the proper timing and injection nozzle for a particular combustion chamber with a particular fuel grade, and any change to the fuel will effect the combustion of that fuel. To what degree however, is the question, and it is for all intents, unknown without some kind of testing that looks into the combustion chamber over a period of time, and a teardown of the injection pump to see how its wearing. I think this testing has been concluded for WVO. There are some engines and fuel pumps that will not tolerate any increase in fuel viscosity and those pumps are known due to their frequent failures pushing DinoD. You are even more than correct that we need to know the history of the pumps we will be using. Again, I think that data has been accumulated. DD is a winner based on results. VW TDI is a winner but the modern Mercedes won't allow it. Older Mercedes are a "go". Lots of info out there and just because somebody can articulate a question is not proof, in itself, that no answer can be found even ever. IOW, saving money on fuel is one thing, and great when it works. Creating volatile fuels, and putting those fuels into vehicles labeled as diesel fuel, and not labeling it, adds a danger that is simply not being addressed. You are correct and that is why we have all those warnings and cautions on just about every blessed thing we purchase. I have three pages of "WARNING"s in my new stereo manual. The litegous few have brought this down on us and the corps that have flagrantly disregarded our safty in the past are at the front of the list of why the lawyers are needed in the first place. Ever heard about the Pinto with the exploding gas tank? How about the Firestone tires that disentagrated after a couple thousand miles. In both these case it took a law suit to alter the corporatios behavior and stop killing men women and children by the hundreds. I don't like a lot of tis system either but I have lived thru the history and read about a lot of it that happened before my time. The alternatives are far far worse. I'll tolerate those scum that sue for everything and consider it the cost of doing bidnessAnd then destroying engines with WVO, and hiding the damage by just walking away and junking them, takes away a great deal of knowledge that could have been used, either to find work arounds to the problems, or to find its simply a dead end. A $10K engine failure after saving $9,998.00 on fuel isnt saving anything.
Where are you guys getting WMO to burn? Do service garages just give it to you? If I drained the oil on everything I own I might get 7 or 8 gallons. Certainly not enough to use for anything.
soooo, I guess the next natural step would be to use wvo or even wmo or even some sort of a blend with our propane appliances.... once in awhile I see gas engines that have been converted to use propane, would it be possible to do some sort of a blend with gas to keep the flash point or other slight modification....
Paseo.You are my Hero.John
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