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Offline Paso One

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Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« on: September 27, 2006, 06:46:18 PM »
anyone know  Part numbers for what alcoa 24.5 or 22.5 rims that will fit the GM 10 bolt wheels ( hub piloted ) ??
68 5303 Fishbowl 40'x102" 6V92 V730 PS, Air shift  4:10 rear axle.
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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2006, 07:16:24 PM »
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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2006, 07:29:43 PM »
I have been there but couldn't find any application charts etc.. I was hoping someone bought some and new specifically what the part #'s were. thks paul
68 5303 Fishbowl 40'x102" 6V92 V730 PS, Air shift  4:10 rear axle.
1973 MCI 5 B 8V71 4 speed manual
1996 MCI 102 D3 C10  Cat engine 7 speed manual  and yes I would.

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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2006, 07:30:50 PM »
Paso:

I sent you an email with a PDF document that was too large to attach to a post here on the board. After that, I found another document that might help. See attached

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Revised ... Okay nevermind. Even that 2 page Pdf document was too large to be accept by the board.
Link to document on web ...  http://www.alcoa.com/alcoawheels/north_america/en/xbr/docs/brochure.pdf
« Last Edit: September 27, 2006, 07:35:27 PM by WEC4104 »
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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2006, 07:38:02 PM »
Great Thanks Wayne  Where did you find that ?  have been all over the alcoa site
68 5303 Fishbowl 40'x102" 6V92 V730 PS, Air shift  4:10 rear axle.
1973 MCI 5 B 8V71 4 speed manual
1996 MCI 102 D3 C10  Cat engine 7 speed manual  and yes I would.

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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2006, 07:50:47 PM »
A year or two ago I found the PDF document that I emailed you, and downloaded to my PC. When I found out the file size was too large to post, I went looking for a web link to post.   A google search on "Alcoa wheels hub piloted bus" got me to one of their web pages. There was a small photo of a wheel on the side of the page with a caption that said "Click here for more Dura-Bright info. (or something like that). Clicked there, and then on "product brochure".

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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2006, 08:17:22 PM »
Thanks Wayne and Ed I guess I just needed my hand held.  883610 Db for 22.5 's or 983610 DB for the 24.5's incase anybody else needs them  thksPaul
68 5303 Fishbowl 40'x102" 6V92 V730 PS, Air shift  4:10 rear axle.
1973 MCI 5 B 8V71 4 speed manual
1996 MCI 102 D3 C10  Cat engine 7 speed manual  and yes I would.

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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2006, 11:36:36 PM »
Don't forget to look at Accuride too.  Freightliner's main aluminum wheel-usually a bit cheaper than Alcoa and they look exactly the same.  Get the Accurides with Accushield Finish on the outside facing wheels and you won't ever have to polish them again.  Course Alcoa has Durabrights too.  Good Luck, TomC
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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2006, 04:43:58 AM »
I believe that any of the GM coaches are going to be stud piloted.

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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2006, 06:36:33 AM »
I believe that any of the GM coaches are going to be stud piloted.

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I believe your right Len.

Hub piloted wheels have lugnuts with a washer.

Stud piloted wheels don't.

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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2006, 06:44:43 AM »
Dallas -

You got it right the first time -

Stud piloted wheels use a lug nut with a champhered edge - just like most autos except larger.

Hub piloted use lug nuts with a built-in washer.


Paso -

Better check your coach again, to make sure of the type of wheels you've got before ordering!   ;)
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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2006, 07:06:51 AM »
Okay Thanks,  I have Both actually The fishbowl I got off Brian Has the lug nuts with the washer. The rims look the same and I was wondering the difference. I have been transfering parts from a 77 Transit and it has a new drums on the front with long studs as the nut has many threads after tight.  I took the 22.5 rims off the  77 and but them on my 5303 and have used them all summer. Have been thinking of transfering the whole front end assembly ( it has power steering) and very tight  I wanted the #'s so I can watch for them on sale :)  I have mis understood looking at the front hub thinking because it rested all around on the centre it was hub piloted and the studs just kept it tight.

Thanks Tom on the freightliner tip as I got a good connection at the local Freightliner dealer.
68 5303 Fishbowl 40'x102" 6V92 V730 PS, Air shift  4:10 rear axle.
1973 MCI 5 B 8V71 4 speed manual
1996 MCI 102 D3 C10  Cat engine 7 speed manual  and yes I would.

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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2006, 08:29:05 AM »
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (never happened so far  ;)) but I think stud piloted wheels will have a beveled or champhered edge around the stud holes.  The hub piloted whells will just be plain holes.

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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2006, 08:35:39 AM »
Len That's  exactly the way I thought it was. until I obviousley got mixed up as the champhered hole lines it up to the stud as each is tightened. I'll wait for the majority ruling :)  :) :) .
68 5303 Fishbowl 40'x102" 6V92 V730 PS, Air shift  4:10 rear axle.
1973 MCI 5 B 8V71 4 speed manual
1996 MCI 102 D3 C10  Cat engine 7 speed manual  and yes I would.

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Re: Anyone Know Alcoa #'s
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2006, 09:16:18 AM »
Len,you are correct and the two cannot be interchanged