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Offline robertglines1

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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2011, 06:06:35 AM »
when you go get filter  get extra set     just in case  IF  you have crud in tank    might take  a couple changes to clean out     and a can of diesel   to prime with....    not time of year to be on side of road.   Bob
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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2011, 07:51:41 AM »
Engine stop solenoid is working correctly, tripple checked.  solenoid is pushing the lever, lever is rotating shaft that goes into the governer/throttle box.  All is working externally.

But is the lever in the right direction? I'm just being a pain about this, because my air piston pushes the lever to shut off my engine, but the lower piston DOES NOT push the lever back to the "start" position. So every single time I want to start the coach, I have reach into the grimy engine, and pull the lever towards me. Otherwise coach won't start. It took me two days to figure this out  :-\ You're probably fine, but I'm just trying to help....
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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2011, 08:01:22 AM »
Scott, There is a coil spring around the engine stop lever shaft inside the governor housing that is the return spring for the lever, and there is a big spring inside the engine stop air cylinder to make it return.  Air pressure in the cylinder is dumped by the Skinner valve once the engine stop is no longer needed.  One or both springs may be missing in your setup if it's not returning on it's own, or the Skinner valve may not be dumping the air pressure.

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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2011, 08:27:49 AM »
The air piston that pushes the lever to the "stop" position does retract. But the lever stays in the "stop" position and I have to pull it into the "start" position. So how easy is it to replace the spring inside the governor housing?...um...off topic...PM me please Brian
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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 08:40:49 AM »
verdict? I ran out of fuel.

Put a couple cans of diesel in my front tank, filled my filters.  a couple cranks and a couple shots of ether, and she runs.

my rear tank is full, but I guess she runs off the front tank.  does anyone have experience with a Newlook with dual tanks?  I dont have a front/rear tank switch and my old manual mentions very little of dual tanks.

I'll have to take a look at all my lines, see if they're pinched or blocked.

Thanks for getting my mind off the oil and aimed toward the fuel.


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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 08:59:46 AM »
verdict? I ran out of fuel.


Awesome, I love these fixes!!  Glad it was that simple....albeit pretty cold job this morning doing fuel filters.  15℉ here.
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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 09:27:46 AM »
Nice! Glad to hear it was easy...strange about the two tanks. Now you have a tank of diesel you can't even use?? bummer. That's money. Better siphon it  ;) And, your thread, solved a long-time issue I've had...so you killed two birds with one thread...thanks :-)
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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2011, 10:24:23 AM »
You are right Opus, it was an easy and inexpensive fix.  I was at home too, so I can't complain... though it was chilly this morning.

Glad you got some good out of this situation too Scott.

its time to get some miles.

Thanks guys.

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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2011, 01:20:31 PM »
    You may have to get under the old girl and follow the plumbing. You may be able to get both tanks working with only a little bit of creativity. ...Cable
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Re: Fishbowl won't start, seconds before madien voyage...
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2011, 08:47:04 PM »
"I turned open the fuel drains in both my filters, ". When you did this you allowed air into the filters, this kept it from starting.

You "then filled both filters". This allowed the engine to start.

The filters would have been full under normal conditions but you had drained them and introduced air instead if fuel.  Any time you drain fuel filters make sure you drain just a few drops, it is easy to overdo it.
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