A Honest Seller and Buyer on EBay

[luvrbus]

Check this out it will make you stop and think before buying a bus from anybody sad to see this happen to Jack

Ebay # 250968499605

[wg4t50]

Sure sad when a person gets tangled up in one of these deals.  From my experience, when it comes to Eagles, buyer be ware, most have extensive rust issues.  Yes they usually ride nice, look nice but once you get under it you need to cry.  Surely a few are worth fixing up, but that is a rare bird from my experience.
Good luck
Dave M

[belfert]

It sounds like this was a case of a past owner purposely covering up the rust issues if the current owner is telling the truth.  I think I would be talking to a lawyer if a seller purposely covered up rust issues that make a vehicle undriveable.

[rv_safetyman]

We have had a fairly lengthy discussion on the Eagle board.  The bus is in PA and the small claims court limit is $8K.  No lawyers involved and very low demand on evidence.  Don't have to educate a jury.  That was my strong recommendation IF Jack could document the fraud (and it sounds like he can).

I also strongly recommended that he contact the BBB so that vendors like this are properly "punished"

Jim

[artvonne]

  I cant imagine a person buying something like this and they cant even judge if the tires are good or not they need someone back home to tell them. Covering up rust is a bad deal and if the previous seller did they deserve everything they get. But buyers should take responsibility too and check things out, or have them checked out first, not drive 450 miles at 70 MPH in something no one ever bothered to look under.

  I am going to reserve judgment on the seller he bought it from until more information comes to light. We dont know who he had look at it and we dont know how bad this rust is he's talking about.

[Jeremy]

I agree - the buyer bears some responsibility in this situation, but it also sounds like a clear case of fraud.

And frames don't completely rot out within a few months - surely this bus wouldn't be legal to drive on the road without it's passing some sort of annual roadworthiness test? If it has got an up-to-date ticket then the testing station is also liable.


Jeremy

[RnMAdventures]

I hate to see someone taken advantage of like that. I wonder if the culprit is the one which solded it to him, or the one before them, or the one before them... it would be interesting to know how many times this hot potato has been passed around. Looking at the pictures it doesn't look too bad (on the outside). How much would it cost to repair the rust damage? I'm not an eagle expert, but I was looking at an Eagle a few years back and someone told me you could get the entire frame redone for about $10k, is that right?

If the previous owner covered up the rot, they put the public at risk as well as the buyer. He drove that monster home at 70 MPH. In all cases of buying anything, buyer beware. The eagle I looked at was a professional conversion (Leanne Rymes tour bus if I remember correctly) and everything looked great. The seller was honest about the rot and told me it was unsafe to drive. If he hadn't told me, I would have been oblivious to it.

[wg4t50]

I agree with RnM, as to the buyer needs to have a clue as to what they are getting into, also it would be interesting  to know the other side of this story, price paid etc.
There are many slick folks running around loose, but while I feel for the buyer, I am sorry he bought this coach on faith that it was good as new and did not need anything, makes me wonder. Enuf said.

[Tikvah]

I'm not an Eagle guy... so I'll reserve any judgement either way.  No matter the problem - it's sad.   However, I have known more than one mechanic who will blow problems WAY out of proportion.  Rotted out on the whole vehicle and still looks that good seems rather extreme.  I'd want to get under it and take a through inspection myself - then maybe have an inspection done by someone else.  This might be well within reasonable repair and not as bad as this mechanic says.

On the other hand - the thing could be junk 

Dave

[Ace]

I bet that guys arm is STILL sore from being twisted into buying it!

Like others have stated, why wait to get it home 450 miles away to have someone else tell him things are bad? If it were me AND probably you too, the coach would have a good going over before my money left my possession!

I have seen and heard of other buyers get so
Something home and find that it's just too much work to take on and the easy way to save face is to place blame on the guy that sold it to them!

Ive got personal experience with Easters and like a salesman anywhere, he's not going to offer any info if you don't ask! I also find it hard to believe that if thatuch was wrong with this rather good looking bus that the buyer didn't make any mention of contacting Easters about resolving any issues before trying to sell it but had the time to mention the bad deal he supposedly got!

Personally, I'd be Leary about the NOW owner that is trying to sell it, not Easters!

[luvrbus]

Got nothing to do with it being a Eagle or the buyer he bought it as represented  the Ebay seller did a number I watched that bus on Ebay because of the rare plug door but when I saw who the seller was I never looked again and have no idea what it sold for
 
The bus can be repaired if you have the time the sub frame is Cor/Ten I think he getting some bad info about that part.

It is just a typical cover up from that outfit he did a number on Joe the Camper just a couple of weeks back

His MO is sell you a piece of crap and the only you can get your money back is buy a different bus from him and that works sometimes for him believe it or not and that is the deal Bobby offered him and hung up the phone and now he won't answer or return Jacks calls.

So he put the bus on Ebay where buyers can see and read the story he doesn't care if it sells or not he plans on the bus being on Ebay for a long,long time


good luck

[Busted Knuckle]

I feel sorry for the guy that bought it just because I know that is the way Bobby operates!
Now I know Ace, Belfert, John 316 and others here have dealt with Bobby before and some liked it & some didn't.

But I also know that the ones who have dealt with Easter's Bus Sales and been happy were not novices and had prior buses/experience.

I also know many of charter operators that learned the hard way NOT to trust Bobby or take his shops word for the condition of the buses they were buying.

Bobby is almost as bad as Sam Walker with the exception that at least with Bobby you get SOMETHING for your $ Sam you don't!

Bobby is very well polished and plays that old Christian gospel singer card well when selling things.

Now the buyer did make mistakes, but not everybody knows to take it to an independent shop for an inspection when the seller has a nice professional looking well equipped shop right there.
  BK 

[DMoedave]

It probably went to the Pa inspection station when he got it home and thats where he got the bad news. The dont just give a cursoury and stamp the paper they check out the frame etc. what i bummer and good for him "selling" her and listing the true facts. I remember the fla inspections back in the day. wipers and lights, parking brake? good to go. Bermuda is really rough!

[luvrbus]

Bobby may have put too much on his plate this time with Jack he is a business man over 3500 sales on EBay with a 100% positive feed back

good luck

[Busted Knuckle]

Bobby may have put too much on his plate this time with Jack he is a business man over 3500 sales on EBay with a 100% positive feed back

good luck

I wish him luck! Bobby deserves someone to take him down a notch or two!
  BK