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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #120 on: April 29, 2013, 10:30:38 AM »
Thanks for the serial numbers, I will update my records with your information.

My last update on coach 0008, was that it was for sale.

Had no record of coach 4822 still being alive and well.

Always happy to hear about more 4104 owners.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #121 on: May 14, 2013, 12:18:44 PM »
1953 conversions where are they now?

0008- Pine Bluff, Arkansas
0012-Virginia
0023- unknown
0045-Texas
0053-Minnesota
0056-Tennessee
0073-Texas
0076-unknown
0105-Winfield, Kansas
0126-Franklin, TN
0148-Corona, CA
0154-Springfield, IL
0172-Lenoir, NC
0175-Mexico - permanent camp site
0204-New York
0230-West Virginia
0252-Kendalville, IN
0277-Indiana
0289-Crossville, TN for sale
0362- Escondido, CA for sale
0414-Unknown
0449-Washington
0450- unknown
0501-Virginia
0513-Texas
1964 White/Carpenter 35' RE 3208 Husky Camp
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #122 on: May 14, 2013, 12:32:07 PM »
More to come. Break over.

Siberyd
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #123 on: May 29, 2013, 09:14:16 AM »
Got a new one for you!  ;D    1957 4104-2106   bought by Badger Bus Lines in Madison Wi.  Unit # 135.    Sold by them a long time ago, and tracked down and re-bought by them a few years ago with the intention of restoring to original. Needs a lot of work but is still a seated coach. Saw it last week when we went there hoping to find out if our 5A was part of their fleet as i was told.
Used to own a 1968 MCI 5A with 8V71 and Allison MT644 transmission.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #124 on: May 29, 2013, 03:30:15 PM »
Thanks Ed,

I will add her to the list.

Siberyd
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #125 on: June 18, 2013, 09:29:56 PM »
I am still around, and after placing my ad in BCM I have 3 new VIN/SN for the list.

Had a family member pass after a short illness and have been kept busy taking care of family matters. Should have an update the beginning of July.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #126 on: June 29, 2013, 01:21:27 PM »
 I am looking at buying PD4104-3390  It is currently in Phoenix Az, and will be comming home with me to St. Louis Mo.  Can you tell me any information on this coach?
Scott 
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1958 GM 4104 Extended 2 feet, with a 6v92 and 5 speed automatic

http://s783.photobucket.com/user/harleyman_1000/library/Gm4104%20bus?sort=3&page=1

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #127 on: June 29, 2013, 04:35:25 PM »
I am looking at buying PD4104-3390  It is currently in Phoenix Az, and will be coming home with me to St. Louis Mo.  Can you tell me any information on this coach?

Scott -

PD4104-3390 was delivered new as fleet number C-2063 in April of 1958 to Central Greyhound Lines, HQ'd in Minneapolis, MN at the time.  This was during the period when 'Hound had the enviable reputation of having the BEST preventative maintenance program of any commercial carrier, long before the hot dog salesman took over and ruined the company.  Back then they kept their buses ten years - until after the summer peak season - and then they'd be sold off to second-tier operators or private individuals.  Thus up until late 1968, this coach had good maintenance.  Once it left Greyhound's fleet, who knows. . .

If the deal goes thru as planned, you'll be able to truthfully tell folk you live in a "jen-u-wine" retired Greyhound Bus!

FWIW & HTH. . .

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RJ Long
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #128 on: June 29, 2013, 05:13:25 PM »
Scott -

PD4104-3390 was delivered new as fleet number C-2063 in April of 1958 to Central Greyhound Lines, HQ'd in Minneapolis, MN at the time.  This was during the period when 'Hound had the enviable reputation of having the BEST preventative maintenance program of any commercial carrier, long before the hot dog salesman took over and ruined the company.  Back then they kept their buses ten years - until after the summer peak season - and then they'd be sold off to second-tier operators or private individuals.  Thus up until late 1968, this coach had good maintenance.  Once it left Greyhound's fleet, who knows. . .

If the deal goes thru as planned, you'll be able to truthfully tell folk you live in a "jen-u-wine" retired Greyhound Bus!

FWIW & HTH. . .


 Im confused? I was told this was a 1960 bus, and your saying it was delivered in April of 1958?

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Scott 
St.Louis Missouri

1958 GM 4104 Extended 2 feet, with a 6v92 and 5 speed automatic

http://s783.photobucket.com/user/harleyman_1000/library/Gm4104%20bus?sort=3&page=1

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #129 on: June 29, 2013, 05:35:23 PM »
What is 2 years in the life of a 50 + year old bus ::) that serial number is for a 1958 
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #130 on: June 29, 2013, 05:38:38 PM »
 So if the title says 1960 then I might have a problem?
Scott 
St.Louis Missouri

1958 GM 4104 Extended 2 feet, with a 6v92 and 5 speed automatic

http://s783.photobucket.com/user/harleyman_1000/library/Gm4104%20bus?sort=3&page=1

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #131 on: June 29, 2013, 06:01:01 PM »
Scott -

Yes, it was delivered new in April of 1958, according to the GMC Parlor Car Delivery Roster I have right in front of me.

Provided, of course, that you posted the correct VIN.

Some subsequent owner after Greyhound screwed up the title, and the current seller may be unaware (or may not).

If you think there will be a problem getting it registered back in Saint Louie, for a $25 donation order a copy of the GMC "Final Vehicle Record" from the Museum of Transportation in Ohio to verify it's origin w/ the DMV and insurance folk.

Not the end of the world if it's the coach you really want.

FWIW & HTH. . .

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RJ Long
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #132 on: June 29, 2013, 08:49:15 PM »
Scott,

I sent a website link to the final vehicle record address.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #133 on: July 01, 2013, 11:34:04 PM »
I'm planning on buying 4963 in a day or two as a parts donor.  It is currently drivable, but the clutch is going.  I'm inclined to swap parts out and keep it as a rough ugly stepsister.  It's a conversion with pretty nice exterior.  I really don't need two buses, but hate the thought of scrapping her.  Might choose to modify into an infield coach with a roof deck and on tap draft.
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #134 on: July 02, 2013, 06:57:14 AM »
Im confused? I was told this was a 1960 bus, and your saying it was delivered in April of 1958

Are you using the serial number that is on the builders plate?
Check the serial number in the steering compartment under the drivers seat it's stamped in large letters and numbers on the vertical structure looking straight in the compartment.
If both numbers match or don't match just go with what the title states.
Don't try to unconfused the folks in you state tag and title office.
Good luck.
jlv