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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #210 on: January 09, 2014, 08:35:24 AM »
I own 4104 4519, I know about the 2 previous owners , can you tell me the original history of 4519, Thanks, Nel
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #211 on: January 09, 2014, 10:24:18 AM »
Nel,

What is your city and state for the survivors list?

RJ has better records than.me so he will post it as soon as he read this.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #212 on: January 09, 2014, 10:39:51 AM »
I live in West Nyack , NY

A little too cold right now to work on it, but I have gutted the previous conversion from the 80's.( way too much shag carpeting for me) I would start with insulating the bus from the ceiling down, the insulation there now looks original as well as the ceiling panels and looks like it gets wet from condensation, would like to know the best material to use against the metal surfaces , by the way I hope I can get a lot of feed back from members willing to give advice as I go, I will try to post pictures too. Thanks again, Nel
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #213 on: January 09, 2014, 11:20:52 AM »
Sent Gordie's 4104 project to your email.
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #214 on: January 09, 2014, 04:05:25 PM »
I own 4104 4519, I know about the 2 previous owners , can you tell me the original history of 4519, Thanks, Nel

Nel -

PD4104-4519 was delivered new as fleet number P-7541 to Western Greyhound Lines, HQ'd in San Francisco, CA.  It was part of a 75-bus order that was delivered in February and March of 1960.  Based on it's sequence in the order (4478-4553), I'm going to guess that it actually was delivered in the early part of March, as it was #41 out of 75.

So you can legitimately tell folk that you own a "Jen-u-wine retired Greyhound bus."   ;D

FYI, if you haven't seen it in some of my other postings, WGL had one of the BEST maintenance shops in the Greyhound organization during the timeframe your coach was part of their fleet (1960-1970), so for at least the first ten years of it's life it was well taken care of.

FWIW & HTH. . .

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #215 on: January 10, 2014, 04:59:55 AM »
Well Thanks RJ , I will keep that info in my bus files, 4519 will be in good hands on the East coast for a while and hopefully will visit the West coast someday, Thanks again RJ, Nel
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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #216 on: January 21, 2014, 04:21:02 PM »
4104-2731 is alive and well in Fallon, NV. Currently for sale on Craig's list.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #217 on: January 21, 2014, 05:13:25 PM »
4104-2731 is alive and well in Fallon, NV.

Delivered new in July of 1957 as fleet number F-1226 to Florida Greyhound Lines, HQ'd in Jacksonville, FL.

FWIW & HTH. . .

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #218 on: January 21, 2014, 05:33:41 PM »
Thanks RJ.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #219 on: January 25, 2014, 12:26:23 PM »
4104-1802 is alive and well as a converted coach fulltiming based out of Tennessee.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #220 on: February 02, 2014, 06:39:51 AM »
 One  for sale on E-BAY  4104 -1721

   Steve 5B.....

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #221 on: February 03, 2014, 12:20:36 PM »
Thanks for the info.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #222 on: February 06, 2014, 10:15:45 PM »
4104-2023 is still around. Unknown what condition it is in, the former owner said it is a part of a special project with details TBA. Will advise when I hear.

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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #223 on: February 11, 2014, 08:24:42 AM »
Two more coaches:

4104-4218 conversion unknown location.

4104-4821 conversion Norman, OK



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Re: Tracking Down PD 4104's Still Around or on the road
« Reply #224 on: February 18, 2014, 01:36:32 PM »
Greetings all,

I have to apologize for the last total I posted. The numbers did not match in 2 places (my way of double checking). It appears that I have a mystery formula adding buses that don't exist in my database. I found an error on Line 2215.of 5100 lines (on my Excel spreadsheet). Somehow a formula was adding buses to my total. I guess it can happen, because it did. So I spent my weekend looking at every line and found the error.

The corrected numbers for the surviving coaches are:
(These do not include new numbers received over the weekend).

Conversions - 202
Noted on web - 33
Scrapped - 50
Still a bus/shell - 16

Total of 301

2 owners are converting their coaches to being a bus again.


1964 White/Carpenter 35' RE 3208 Husky Camp
1957 PD 4104-2240 Converted Siberyd