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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2013, 07:25:59 PM »
We only run a black/grey combo tank. We have valves on every drain that lead to the ground in the places that allow us to dump our grey out. Those are getting fewer and far between. If we go 250 it won't be until we have a truck conversion. We are in the midst of laying out the floor plan and I'm keeping my eye on freightliner cabover chassis.


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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2013, 08:41:04 PM »
Hi Scott, I have a 5 gallon disstilled water bottle for my radiator misting, with a 12volt pump, back were the airconditioner compressor was, couldn't you put some plumbing in place with a diverter at the toilet water inlet that you could tap a tank like my mister tank either in the engine compartment or add a tank, with that tap,  in the bay when needed, lvmci...
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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2013, 09:06:52 AM »
On my truck conversion, I'm using 2-98gal fresh water tanks plumbed together to make 196gal fresh, a 115gal gray water tank, 69gal black water tank, 2-10gal water heaters. The fresh water tanks, black and 2 water heaters are mounted just forward of the tandems. The gray water is right over the tandems. One of the many advantages of using a truck chassis. I'm just tired of the crampness of working on the bus. REALLY looking forward to the ease of maintenance, workability and driveability of the truck. The only drawback-there is no real forward vision when in the back. I'm going to setup a high def camera outside with a flat screen TV on the front wall for a virtual window. It will second as a security camera.  Good Luck, TomC
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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2013, 09:29:46 AM »
Tom, what about a periscope?
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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2013, 09:35:52 AM »
I've known a couple people that have used gray water for flushing, and used no filter whatsoever.  The only method they used to prevent solid particulate from being introduced was to place the gray water tap about six inches or so off the bottom of the tank.

When draining the tank they provided for flushing water in some gallon jugs with water from the gray water tank, or one just saved urine for flushing till water in the tank was up sufficiently.

They did tell me that they did not allow bleach, or other bacteria inhibiting things into their gray water so as to not introduce it into the blank tank, which tends to smell up the process.

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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2013, 05:55:10 AM »
Lvmci, actually we have plenty of space to add various tanks like you said. Freshwater could be several tanks tied together like TomC has. But of course, black really needs to just be one main tank if possible. It's interesting how full timing for 20 months opens your eyes. We are always parked at a full hookup...or thought we would be. But this past summer we were parked in a school parking lot for two months without hookup. Dumping into a 30 gallon roller tote was a nasty experience and I intend to never have to again. We know without a doubt that if we are water misers we can go a full 16 days on 100 gallons of capacity with no hookup at all...and that's with a 2.5 GPM shower head. Now, if we can merely get a hose connection which is much easier to find than a sewer connection at some of the places we stay, we can drop our grey water sometimes using our diverter valves at every drain (we use organic soaps a lot) then we literally can go for a solid two months or more without dumping the black tank if we had 200 gal capacity. I wish there were some sort of transportable tank that you could slide onto a hitch platform on our truck and take the black tank away to dump and the fresh tank to fill without having to move the coach.


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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2013, 07:26:05 AM »
Scott, when we re-did our shower last winter we put in a Kohler K8543CP 2 GPM hand held shower head. Not cheap, about $70 without the hose, but worth it to us. It has good flow and in addition to being 2 GPM I think the head design allows a quicker rinse. We like it and it works so well, we later put one in our home shower too.

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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2013, 08:24:52 AM »
I have an old fashioned style shower faucet with the two handles for hot and cold.  This allows one to also adjust the water flow.  The single handle shower faucets these days only have one water flow setting.
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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2013, 02:53:49 PM »
Brian,

Some single handle shower valves don't control the flow, but the Moen L4625 that we used does. You pull out the handle to adjust the flow and turn the handle to adjust the temperature.  The only local place we could get the 36"X36" Maax neo-round shower stall, with sliding doors, that I wanted, and the fixtures my wife wanted, was at the wholesale plumbing supply store. We had a very knowledgeable sales lady/interior decorator help us pick out the products that best met our needs. It took 3 weeks to get the items, but they were delivered to my shop when they came in. You don't get that service and quality at the big box stores. You do pay for the service and quality, but the finished project was worth it to us. I wish I knew how to post pictures because I think the project turned out very well.

Scott, sorry I got off topic.

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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2013, 09:03:33 PM »
Actually this is delightfully on topic. I'm intrigued by the kohler shower head. Ours is leaking and being dumb. We need a new one. As for flow control, we do have it at the shower valve handle. We also have an on and off navy shower type lever/valve at the shower head.


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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2013, 04:42:01 PM »
We're fans of Oxygenics Body Spa showerhead, which can be had for under $40 on Amazon. It significantly reduces water usage, while giving a lot of pressure.  The one we just got in was marked being rated for a max of 2 GPM.

My cold water reclamation system isn't as fancy as Sean's, but I simply collect the cold water in a bucket that we then use for flushing the toilet or even washing dishes. When we were living in the Virgin Island during a draught off a rapidly depleting cistern, we even resorted to placing pots and pans in the shower stall to collect water to do dishes with. 

Other tips for saving water:

- Go no-poo (no shampoo). I've not used shampoo in over 5 years, which can be a major water saver - and my hair is healthier - and we save lots of money on shampoo. Here's my article on the topic: http://www.technomadia.com/2012/01/four-years-shampoo-free/

- Pre-rinse dishes with a squirt bottle with diluted dish soap (instead of running water over them.).  Let them soak, then scrub.. then rinse with as little water as you can. I also recommend washing in a basin, or closing the drain - this way you're very aware of how much water you've used. And if grey tank space is an issue, you can then easily dump or evaporate the dish water by placing the basin out in the sun.

On our previous RV that we full timed in, we had 38G of fresh water that we could make last for nearly 2 weeks when needed.  Now with 100G on board, we're darn right abundant, and feel we could easily make it last a month if we really needed to.

We also modified our water pump so it could suck in fresh water from a container, which makes it easier to refill if a hose isn't handy.

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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2013, 06:19:14 PM »
Lots of great info on this topic! We just bought a 0.5gpm low flow shower head. A bit pricy but was the lowest flow I could find.  Here is a link to some details on it.
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/bricor-05-gpm-ultra-lowflow-sh-110946

I didn't buy it from this site....forgot where I got it from.

Have not had the chance to use it yet, will let you all know how we like it in April!
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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2013, 08:55:47 PM »
Definitely want to know how you like that shower head! Cherie, a month on 100 gallons!? I can't hold a candle to your water miserness!!! Wow!


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Re: Making Fresh Tank Last a Month
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2013, 06:02:38 AM »
Scott - We've used the Oxygenics since we got our bus. We just replaced it because the plastic holder broke, and well - we wanted it in brushed nickel instead of white :)

We love it tremendously.
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