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Offline harleyman_1000

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Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« on: June 07, 2013, 05:45:14 PM »
 I have a chance to trade my house for a 2000 Wanderlodge, and trying to find out more about them. It has a Cummings 450 hp engine in it. Is this a good engine? Any info on these things would be very helpful
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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2013, 05:54:16 PM »
In my book a Wanderlodge is a converted Bluebird bus, just converted by Bluebird before it's sold, not by a converter who buys a shell.  As I understand it, Wanderlodges started out as converted school buses and by 1998 they were based on transit buses, pusher engines, slides, three axles, etc.  Always considered high end, and the last generation pretty comparable to a Prevost based conversion.  Wanderlodges started my interest in converted buses, I am drawn to the earlier ones like a bug to a light...

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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2013, 07:00:55 PM »
 That would be a CUMMINS,, very reliable engine and trouble free.. The wonderinglodges are highly thought of and always in demand among those in the know.>>>Dan
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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2013, 08:37:36 PM »
 I was originally looking at Gm 4104's and 4106's but am wondering if the Wanderlodge is a better unit? Of coures The wanderlodge is a 2000 for 89,000( trade for my house ) and has a 450 hp, and the old Gm's are between 6,000 and 30,000 and have the Detroit diesel. Guess I can go up the hills a little faster.....    ;D 
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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2013, 09:09:19 PM »
Just my thought but I would want some cash also. Look at what other wanderlodges have sold for then go from that. Maybe an extra 10k cash?
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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 09:11:51 PM »
Scott, by 2000 they had gone to the purpose built motorhome.  Don't know if that is good or bad.  It looks like a modern motorhome as opposed to the classic Wanderlodge.

The price/trade value of $89K seems high to me.  If it is a LX 40' Millenium Edition, they are asking that kind of money, but not sure they are getting it.

If it is the LX, it looks like they were equipped with the best parts, including Aqua-Hot, Power Tech generator, 10 bag air suspension, etc.  Can't tell about the inverter.

The quick research I did does not show slideouts on the ones I looked at.

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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2013, 09:16:19 PM »
 Another serious consideration would be depreciation of each over a sort time period,, the property is probably going to appreciate as the market turns around,, the Wonderinglodge won't at any time in the future, today is the most its going to be worth.>>>Dan
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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2013, 11:04:11 PM »
This what a 2000 model year looks like? Definitely not the Wanderlodge of the past..which were tough beasts:

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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2013, 11:43:41 PM »
Just like Bevins6, I liked the Birds before I knew what a bus conversion was. Still like them even though I know very little about them. I have nothing to base what I am about to say on, but I think that is a deal I wouldn't do. Utahclaimjumper has made a good point with the direction of values. I would sell the house, buy a conversion that has already depreciated, and pocket/invest the rest. You can buy some nice conversions for less than the stated value of your house. Hiyosilver is selling his professionally built MCI 9 (Custom Coach? Advertised in BCM mag.). I think he is asking ~$35K. I saw where Ace has his Prevost H3-40 on ebay: Ace's conversion. I have seen it, and it ranks up there with the better high end stuff. I am very biased to the GM 4104 and 4106 buses. They will outlive any of the newer conversions, They already have over 50 years behind them and look how many are still out there and in better shape than some of the new stuff.
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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2013, 01:07:47 AM »
Crazy subject, I agree with Barn Owl on all, and for me, the 4104 is still I think the tuffest of all buses, agree, when all this new stuff if in the junk yard, there will still be 4104's roaming around cheerfully, yes smoking a little, dripping very little oil, everyone will be making fun of them, but there they go.
Years ago, I felt the older origional Blue Bird was the end of all RV setups, well in the past 40 years I have gotten a little educated and no longer have any desire for the B-B bus RV, expecially the ones the the V-8 Cummins, V-504 & V-555, they are real near junk when new. (my opinion).
But trading the home for an old B-B makes me shudder.
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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2013, 01:16:35 AM »
It's a bus. I have a '82 PT40. The older ones are way over engineered.

That's too much money for the one you're looking at.

Find out all you want to know here:

http://www.wanderlodgeownersgroup.com/forums/index.php

and here:

http://wanderlodgegurus.com/

Also check out the Bye Bye BlueBird link on the Wanderlodgeownersgroup forum. Randy knows 'Birds.

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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2013, 05:51:47 AM »
That coach is built on the LTC chassis the City of Houston just sold off some 2002 45 foot models some with low mileage brought over a hundred grand for a seated coach they were headed to South America 

I have a buddy in Houston that sold his H-41 and bought one a couple years ago he loves it they sure ride nice but I would go for one with the C-13 Cat not the Cummins 
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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2013, 03:34:20 PM »
Wanderlodges are now sticks&staples RVs. They are no longer built on the All American schoolbus chassis. They are what I call faux buses. Read up on the Wanderlodges. They have a timeline that says when it changed. Wanderlodges stopped looking good around 1985. Now they look like all the other RVs.

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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2013, 03:43:51 PM »
Blue Birds are not S&S where did that come I had a unfinished BB that came from the factory when it closed we removed the C-13 Cat engine and transmission it had plenty of iron and very well built with the LTC chassis made by Blue Bird
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Re: Is a Wanderlodge a bus?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2013, 06:19:49 PM »
Some Bluebird models were built on Spartan chassis, also used by other "S&S" coach builders, between 1994 and 1997.  After 1998 they reverted to Bluebird built chassis again, according to the interweb at least. 

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