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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2013, 11:00:14 AM »
Wind does plays a big part it will suck the heat out in a hurry in a bus I had a RV with NuHeat in the floors it wasn't all that great,then it wasn't a hydronic it was electric
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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2013, 11:25:06 AM »
Any unvented gas heater will produce moisture- catalytic or not.  If your climate already has humidity, condensate can be an issue to deal with.  In deserts, it might not matter.  However, aside from using furnaces, there are vented gas space heaters too.  We have a Platinum Cat that is a vented heater similar to the Olympic.  It only puts out about 5000 BTU's but seems to do fine in the bedroom.  Of course, we have not tested it in the genuine cold that many others have to deal with.
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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2013, 03:51:24 PM »
We have in floor radiant heat (water ) with 1 1/2 " foam insulation under floor . When on the road with engine heat 180* the whole coach is as warm as we want . When parked or on the pole I have a 2 gal. elect water heater that will heat the coach until about 25 * f colder then that I use the proheat .I installed a valve on the input to the engine two shut off the eng. heat. So that only to heat the floor . The proheat will keep the coach as warm as we want and dose not cycle on very much . The coldest temp we have been in was 5 * Fahrenheit ( to cold to be camping in ) .        dave
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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2013, 05:49:19 PM »
We have in floor radiant heat (water ) with 1 1/2 " foam insulation under floor . When on the road with engine heat 180* the whole coach is as warm as we want . When parked or on the pole I have a 2 gal. elect water heater that will heat the coach until about 25 * f colder then that I use the proheat .I installed a valve on the input to the engine two shut off the eng. heat. So that only to heat the floor . The proheat will keep the coach as warm as we want and dose not cycle on very much . The coldest temp we have been in was 5 * Fahrenheit ( to cold to be camping in ) .        dave

How "thick" is the floor, what is it made of and how is the grid configured? I've always been a fan of hydronic heat.

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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2013, 06:13:33 PM »
Heated floors really would make a huge difference. The air temp is fine but the floors are cold. I installed a ceiling fan to distribute the heat from the ceiling back down and it helps tremendously but 20 mph winds and 3 degrees F is really hard to keep coach warmer than 74. That's all heaters running on highest setting. If you have a condensation issue, go out and buy a dehumidifier. I'm telling you, it solves the problem....trust me on this.


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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2013, 08:29:21 PM »
Have the Aqua Hot and dual payne windows that are sealed to body very well, so no wind issues.  Dual payne glass is a biggie improvement along with the entrance door being well sealed.
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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2013, 09:26:29 PM »
Scott,I picked up on the moister comment, and agree that if the moisture is taken out the air,walls,furniture,windows etc the easier it will be to heat the bus, and should help the same way cooling the bus. what kind of dehumidifer ya got and where is it placed to cover the entire bus?.... thx. George
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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2013, 04:25:21 AM »
Problem solved just move to AZ where there is no humidity in the air to remove or insulate the entire bus with silica gel  ;D 

41 degrees at 5am beautiful clear skies you can see every star in the sky, no wind and we will be in the 70's today life is good 
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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2013, 04:47:11 AM »
radiant floor heat in our coach .

tin foil bubble rap on 1/2" floor
1/2 " pex tube with 6 " centres with metal pex reflective plates
 3/4 " tin foil foam board between each loop
5/8 " ply on top , laminate , carpet flooring
under floor 3/4 " tin foil foam board , tin foil bubble rap

the key is lots of heat from the heat exchanger via engine , proheat , elect. water heater 

I have in floor heat in my shop at work and it's strange how the temperature at 3 ' above the floor is warmer then the temperature  at the ceiling 18' high ?              dave
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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2013, 05:16:31 AM »
Which is cheaper to heat with electricity or the hydronic diesel fired systems ?
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Re: Re: Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #55 on: December 11, 2013, 06:04:13 AM »
Problem solved just move to AZ where there is no humidity in the air to remove....

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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #56 on: December 11, 2013, 07:05:14 AM »
Arizonas the place,we don,t worry about the price of running heaters or air con. electicity is in the price of our lot rent,so its use it or lose it,....lol   
ALTHOUGH the landlord is charging me 25 more per month,because i am all elect.its still the best deal we have all year.
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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #57 on: December 11, 2013, 07:06:30 AM »
Arizona is tempting for next winter... time and money will dictate
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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2013, 03:40:05 PM »
Cliff  if your on the pole elect. is cheaper but when we are on the road and  stop to sleep and don't have a pole its the gene or the proheat . Usually we have enough residual heat from a full day of driving that I shut it all down ( no heat at all ) In the bedroom with good insulation it's always warm and up front the worst temp. I have had was 52 * f in side when it was 14 * f out side . Fire up the proheat for 10 min. then start the old DD and were off for another day's drive .   

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Re: Need more heat.
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2013, 03:47:47 PM »
That's what I thought Doyle the TBD has a hydronic heating system in his Eagle bus and with his background with a pencil the 6 or 8 bucks was cheaper than he could run his hydronic system for a day I am not saying he is cheap but he is conservative  ;D

 
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