CHP and DOT busting truckers at Loves....

[MightyThor]

As far as the legality of talking to someone on private property, generally, if that part of the property is open to the public then law enforcement is not required to get a warrant before they talk to folks.  That is to say, The police have as much right to enter the parking lot or the mall as anyone else.   If they observe something that constitutes a violation of the law then generally they also are not required to get a warrant before issuing a citation or making an arrest.   

[Lin]

Well Thor, that does make sense, but why then do so many criminals hang out at Walmart?

[harleyman_1000]

Well Thor, that does make sense, but why then do so many criminals hang out at Walmart?

 Because they are getting off work   

[Dave5Cs]

Although one would think that to actually make an arrest and it being Private Property not Public that the owner of said Private Property would have to press charges. If they could prove that you had committed  a crime or broken the law on public Property before coming onto said Private Property then they may be able to arrest you .

 If a Wal-Martian had reported the crime then all bets would be off unless said space vehicle had landed and was still present in (1) air space above Public Property or (2)on Landing Pad at Wal Mart parking lot without awnings extended or your fines may double and your mileage may vary!......

[bevans6]

I don't get what the difference between public and private property makes to illegal activity.  It's (whatever "it" is) is equally against the law both places.  Idling laws, bypassed emissions, duty time logs, daily inspection logs, safety issues all have to be up to date if you're working the truck.  Unless there is something I am really missing here...

Brian

[garhawk]

Hey Luvrbus,

Why is it illegal for a band troupe to buy fuel from Loves at the RV pump and, who collects and keeps the $1,000 fine?

Seems to me that would be a private issue between the entertainer coach and Loves.  Surely,
AZ doesn't convey Loves the power to levy fines?

[Oonrahnjay]

Hey Luvrbus,

Why is it illegal for a band troupe to buy fuel from Loves at the RV pump and, who collects and keeps the $1,000 fine?

Seems to me that would be a private issue between the entertainer coach and Loves.  Surely,
AZ doesn't convey Loves the power to levy fines?

    I was thinking the same thing.  And I have never understood why the RV lane at Davis Truck stop about 25 miles south of Petersburg, VA is about 8 cents more than diesel at the truck islands. 

[digesterman]

Trucks, buses and commercial entertainment coaches pay a diesel use fee to the state based on mileage or time (trip permits). Loves does not collect the fine, the state does if they catch the offender.

[luvrbus]

Loves don't write the tickets the state does it is written on the rv pump who can fill at a rv pump,it would be like me in a rv fueling at a truck pump in Or to save the 25 cents a gal they levy on you for being a rv 

The entertainers and tour groups buses AZ are watching now they probably spend more money enforcing that the 8 cents can generate so they hit the co's with fines paid before they move the bus or 18 wheeler to the local JP You are not to us the rv pumps  if 3 axle and weigh more 26,000 but they don't enforce if you are a true rv

[Jon]

I tried to use the Pilot Flying J RV island once and damn near fell asleep waiting for the tank to get full because the nozzle was one of the small ones used to fill cars.

So I have used truck islands just because it takes far less time to fill. I don't know if I am paying more or less than the pumps on the car side of the place and really don't care. Nobody has ever questioned me when fueling. We did have a team of inspectors bang on the door at a factory outlet mall one time demanding to see all our paperwork, insurance cards, logs, etc. When I convinced them we were a motorhome they went away to the bus parked next to us. We were forced to park where buses parked by some mall security guard with a golf cart.

[luvrbus]

I don't know about the rest but before Pilot about all the F/J here had a satellite pump at the RV islands  made filling faster if you had the dual fill on your bus 

[TomC]

I stopped at the Flying J going over the Grapevine and fueled at the RV island as I've done many times before. I was surprised that they had pumped up the pressure so filling didn't take to long. Normally I have enough time to wash all my windows-not this time. Good Luck, TomC

[B_K]

If we could just get rid of Governor Jerry Med-Fly maybe we'd have a chance, LOL will send him to AZ!......
Also remember most if not all of your Fruits, nuts, and Veggies come from Cali so be careful what you ask for, LOL

Dave

Dave when I hauled produce we could always tell if it was from CA or not by sucking on it.
If it sucked back it was from CA! 
  BK 

[wg4t50]

Guess a lot of us are familiar with  "I'm sure they always follow the law and they never LIE either sure they always follow the law and they never LIE" 
Have had such an experience, lucky I was able to prove the event was not my doing despite the to Va State Police lieing his butt off.  Another sperience with a Pa State Police in another lie, caused me to walk 60 days.  Would you be surprised if I do not trust cops at all ?
Dave M

[luvrbus]

  they are the law