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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2015, 11:25:35 AM »
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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2015, 11:34:26 AM »
A 400 hp M11 Celect is a good fit and are common in the Eagle and sell from $3500 to $4000
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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2015, 11:35:55 AM »
don;t know exactly, a lot of eagles had the 8's....

is yours currently overheating, my thought is a lot of overheats are a result of turning hp up.... too high ...

and maybe at the right price a larger radiator...

once upon a time clifford was a pretty big fan of the 8v92...
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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2015, 11:38:17 AM »
Don Smith's suburban has a 8v92 
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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2015, 11:49:22 AM »


Sean   Try gene russell at russells diesel   828 863 2102  or david at davids coach  828 874 6105.

Both are great 2 stroke diesel mechenics  Boomer brought his all the way to Genes from washington for a 6-71.

My 6v92 in Huggy came from upstate penn. all the way home with two broken heads and a cracked piston.
was a little slow and shook a little but ever mile saved me 8 dollars"wrecker bill"  and i knew the engine was toast.

David built the 6v92 for a whole lot less than 32,000. whole lot.

It was running when you pulled in should run to leave.

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ps might want to try john silver in lakeland fl.  he had several 6v92 setting around. news years last year. might have one this year also but it turns right not backwards like yours.  Thinking of a series 50 for huggy
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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2015, 12:39:53 PM »
Sean, my stomach is churning. we just talked yesterday and my wife had a great probably 40 minute chat with Angie too....any chance you can get it started and drive it somewhere or is that too risky for you? Guys, just to put it in perspective, most of us might take the risk of driving it and getting stuck on the side of the interstate with the hopes we might make it to a better shop, but Sean has his wife and 4 kids and a kitty to think about so being stranded on the side of the road may not be his cup of tea with a big family to keep safe


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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2015, 12:49:25 PM »
Sean

We are pulling for you guys as we know all to well how it is to have your home become immobilized! Having been where you are, I would take some serious time before if got my wallet out. If your engine still runs get out of the shop and move somewhere to decompress for a bit.

In many cases you can buy a newer running bus for less than a rebuild.

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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2015, 12:51:38 PM »
Sean, sent you a PM.  Not much, but its all I have at this time.  Worth a shot....
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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2015, 01:19:11 PM »
I will see if I can find any around..
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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2015, 02:16:50 PM »
If he buys a used engine it needs to come from a Eagle,changing the drives on the rear for his is a killer a truck engine is close but a MCI,Prevost and others forget it
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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2015, 02:22:39 PM »
That's a bummer. There's a ton of mci 6v92's out there. But I don't see too many eagle takeouts


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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2015, 02:26:59 PM »
Hey guys -

The bus will not start  There is not enough compression in one of the cylinders.  If I was a little wiser maybe we could have moved it before this point.  But as of now the bus is stuck in the shop and that is where we stand. 

Angie and I have both talked about this and have decided that we are going to put the money into getting the engine either replaced or rebuilt.  But we are both exhausted and we need to take some serious time tomorrow and look at what all our options are.  This is a pretty busy shop and the shop guy has alot of stuff going on.  Good thing is he isnt telling me I need to make a decision now or move the bus out.  Bad thing is waiting to get some info is so very painful. 

The Shop manager has estimated 40 hours on the low end, 60 hours on the high end to pull it out and put it back. So that's a non negotiable unless we get it towed.  And the price of towing would be about the same.  Even if its half you get nothing for it and the work has to be done anyways whether at this shop or another.

We are waiting for a quote from Interstate in Billings MT where Chris and Cherie had their coach rebuilt.  I spoke to the shop manager there and I totally love this guy.  He asked a lot of good questions and is very patient.  I know its going to be a pretty penny if we ship it there to be rebuilt but that will give us a solid warranty and 10 good years in the coach (enough time to get all the kiddos off to college) before we would have to do an inframe or major overhaul.

If I could find a quality rebuild that was less in price I would go that way but I wont even know until Billings sends the quote over.  I am more inclined to spend an extra 5k on a known good rebuild in Billings than to have a 10k rebuilt unit from ebay or someones garage.

I would love to put a ISM or 4 stroke in the bus but thats not an option here.  The shop owner said its an unknown number for fabrication and parts and pieces to make it fit and could easily be at least 100 hours of work if it went well. I think he is afraid of putting us in a place where it doesnt fit or they need to "make it work" and he wont be able to warranty it.

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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2015, 02:33:24 PM »
Biggest challenge now is where we are going to stay for the next 3 weeks....crazy
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Re: Engine is TOASTED
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2015, 02:54:44 PM »
all the ones i found/posted are DDEC's...that would probably complicate things further

we'll just pray :)

I am always flabbergasted when I hear 40+ hours to R+R an engine in anything....

flat rate labor for the whole rebuild used to only pay 46 hrs  engine stand to rebuild complete to dyno... dyno included.... :(
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