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Offline sledhead

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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2017, 04:53:25 AM »
and no computers to replace and then here .... well if its not that so lets try this ? at your cost

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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2017, 05:34:57 AM »
Who said anything about payments? As for the computers, I have always been kind of anti-computer when it comes to cars even though I’m a veteran IT network consultant and know my way around computers. That being said, every vehicle after 1996 has electronics. Most before that do too. And many are reliable as heck. My 1998 Land Cruiser had several on board computers one just to control locks, interior lights and power seats (body control module). 300,000 miles, 20 years of life and never once had any problems whatsoever with the electronics. Don’t be scared of them. Embrace them. It’s because of electronics that I went from a 13 mpg V8 with 265 horsepower to a 22 mpg V6 with 365 horsepower. 


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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2017, 10:41:58 AM »
. . . took me an hour and two cans of engine degreaser to clean out the trucks intercooler fins and radiator fins from all the oil residue.

Scott -

I've found that blue Dawn dishwashing liquid works just as well as engine degreaser most of the time, and is much less expensive.  Especially if you give it a few minutes to work it's magic.

I buy the gallon jugs of Dawn at Costco or Sam's Club, keep one at home and one on board.  I have a 5-gallon pail that I use to wash the car & bus, with two squirts of soap from the jug in the pail as the recipe.  Cuts thru all the crud on the coach and car easily.

When home, I put Dawn in the pressure washer's soap tank, then use the low pressure setting to drench the coach's cold engine in the soapy mix.  I let that sit, doing its thing, while I wash the coach normally with the brush, starting at the front and working to the rear on each side.  When I get to the rear, I then hit the engine with the high pressure nozzle from the pressure washer, and finish up by washing the rear of the coach.  So far it's been a routine that works well for me.

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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2017, 02:18:24 PM »
You guys would like these new vehicles. You don't need a crank to get them started anymore.lol

Well, with the Series Land Rovers, they have a hand crank clipped behind the front seats to turn the engine in case the battery is low. How many "new" vehicles can say that? You also can remove the transmission and clutch from inside the vehicle if the weather is inclement. The list of advantages goes on and on. There is even one part on Series Land Rovers that is also used on Eagle Coaches. If anyone out there knows the answer to that, I will give you one.  ;)
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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2017, 03:08:21 PM »
Apparently they don't have much faith in their starters.
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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2017, 04:57:15 PM »
Well, with the Series Land Rovers, they have a hand crank clipped behind the front seats to turn the engine in case the battery is low. How many "new" vehicles can say that? You also can remove the transmission and clutch from inside the vehicle if the weather is inclement. The list of advantages goes on and on. There is even one part on Series Land Rovers that is also used on Eagle Coaches. If anyone out there knows the answer to that, I will give you one.  ;)

Okay, you can give me batteries, radiators, belts, filters, the entire engine, wiring, transmission, and so on.  Or you can be more specific.  And if the Series Land Rover engine can be started with a hand crank, it can't have much horsepower; like less than 20? 

Why would running against the governor make an engine leak more? Compared to say 1800 rpm. Is it a matter of crankcase pressure, or something else?

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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #36 on: December 01, 2017, 07:43:30 PM »
Geoff, it's thread drift again.
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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2017, 08:58:35 AM »
Okay, you can give me batteries, radiators, belts, filters, the entire engine, wiring, transmission, and so on.  Or you can be more specific.  And if the Series Land Rover engine can be started with a hand crank, it can't have much horsepower; like less than 20? 

It's none of of those things, and only a person who has worked on Eagle's and Land Rovers would know. To be exact, the Series Land Rover 2.25L has 73 hp, and it has a crank connection on the front with a shaped hole in the bumper to put the crank handle in. Thread drift's can be educational.  ;)
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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2017, 09:47:02 AM »
I never worked on a Land Rover but have Eagle so tell me a switch ?
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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2017, 12:13:42 PM »
Same nut behind the wheel?
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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2017, 02:26:54 PM »
Walter, we are forum friends and I intend to stay that way with you, but I just can’t be on the same page when it comes to rovers vs land cruisers. Land Cruisers have a proven reliability record. Land Rovers have the opposite. They are equally capable off road without a doubt, but they are just not quite up to the reliability standard I hope for.


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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2017, 05:12:59 PM »
Walter, we are forum friends and I intend to stay that way with you, but I just can’t be on the same page when it comes to rovers vs land cruisers. Land Cruisers have a proven reliability record. Land Rovers have the opposite. They are equally capable off road without a doubt, but they are just not quite up to the reliability standard I hope for.


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That is true for the newer Land Rovers, but not so much for the older Series Land Rovers from 1948-1985. As soon as the brand was no longer built for the Queen, the quality went down. I have towed my 1972 Series III all over the US with lock-out hubs on all four wheels with no problems other than a mysterious oil coating on the front end. Granted, I have no A/C, no power steering, no power brakes, but I have a unique lovable dependable vehicle with a lot of patina, that can go where other 4X4's won't fit. I'm sure Toyota eye-balled the Land Rover when Land Cruisers were designed, and the Toyota's are a great vehicle. The current Discoveries and Range Rovers are super plush and complicated, but they are prone to a lot of problems. I've had occasions where I have towed them out with my old one; nothing is more satisfying.  :D
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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2017, 05:49:40 PM »
I never worked on a Land Rover but have Eagle so tell me a switch ?

Cliff, you are surely a person that deserves to know this secret, but I have held on to this nugget for over twenty years, and I use it at Land Rover Rally's as a stumper trivia question that no one has ever solved. Suffice it to say that it is a part that is unobtainable as a new part for those that are restoring old Land Rovers, and used ones are usually rusted out, but there are many of them on an original 01, 05, and maybe 10's. So, this part benefits a Land Rover owner primarily, but many Eagle owners did not know they had a sought after part when they started their conversion. If I could only find a Land Rover nut that needs a few and has a Kent-Moore J22582 Detroit Barring Tool to trade.  ;D
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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2017, 05:51:59 PM »
I always wanted a Land Rover from the 60 or 70's I owned a 2000 Range Rover I bought new  it was a piece of junk with the Buick engine
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Re: That’s one dirty toad!
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2017, 06:05:52 PM »
I always wanted a Land Rover from the 60 or 70's I owned a 2000 Range Rover I bought new  it was a piece of junk with the Buick engine

Yes, it had problems. If I remember correctly, that aluminum V-6 was passed to American Motors, and they in turn sold it to the English. It was a hot potato that no one wanted to hold on to. The old Series Rovers are the ones you see in ads and movies when they want a African Safari backdrop. They don't show the newer ones. They made a million of the Series Rovers, most of them are located in Australia, Canada, Europe, and Africa. There are only a few thousand on the road in the US.
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