Marine wire

[eagle19952]

Just curious and not seen any cost comparison tables. Does anyone have research into the costs of the different wires, lugs, crimpers, shrink, etc?

I carry this one. New they are $350.00
Lugs are 3-4$ each fot battery/starter 1/2 in holes...

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Greenlee-Dieless-Crimper-al-6-4-0-cu-8-250-preowned-indenter-1981/222932490488?hash=item33e7cfd8f8:g:W3wAAOSwzWla2L~9

[chessie4905]

What brand of the roof airs is he installing? I'd like to see the installation instructions online.

[windtrader]

Donald, that crimper is similar to the manual punch style. Did you look at the ones that crimp all around? Some folks here mention that style as being really solid too.

[richard5933]

This is the hydraulic crimping tool I use. Looks like the price is now about $50.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GXQ2E5E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It crimps all the way around. Works well, although I could use a few more dies to accommodate different lug sizes.

[kyle4501]

This is the hydraulic crimping tool I use. Looks like the price is now about $50.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GXQ2E5E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It crimps all the way around. Works well, although I could use a few more dies to accommodate different lug sizes.

I have one like that, it came with a bunch of dies. I like the way it crimps. The destructive testing I have done shows the crimp renders the individual strands in to a solid mass.

[windtrader]

how funny. two votes for the same crimper. In my wish list Thanks

[bobofthenorth]

how funny. two votes for the same crimper. In my wish list Thanks

Make that 3 votes.  I have had the same unit for probably close to 10 years now. 

[eagle19952]

Donald, that crimper is similar to the manual punch style. Did you look at the ones that crimp all around? Some folks here mention that style as being really solid too.

I bought it surplus from a rural electric utility.
was good enough for them.
Greenlee is a highly respected supplier to the industry.
What else can i say.
it works well.

[luvrbus]

I bought it surplus from a rural electric utility.
was good enough for them.
Greenlee is a highly respected supplier to the industry.
What else can i say.
it works well.

Greenlee is a good product but a little pricey for the average bus person,I would love to have a GreenLess dieless crimper but for 2500 bucks it is not on my bucket list. I just buy the 50 buck Chinese made crap every 2 or 3 years and toss it.I do have dieless hand crimper I love it not have to deal with the dies   

[eagle19952]

This is the hydraulic crimping tool I use. Looks like the price is now about $50.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GXQ2E5E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It crimps all the way around. Works well, although I could use a few more dies to accommodate different lug sizes.

my problem with this crimper is that 20% of the reviews say it sucks and the other 80% are not professional users.
read the reviews.
if i did not afford a real crimper, i'd just sub out the work.

[luvrbus]

The little cheap crimpers are ok for light work I have one,I wouldn't attempt 4/0 battery cables with one. There is standard for crimping and the small crimpers  16 to 20 tons don't even get close to the193,000 to 231,000 pounds.You can find that chart on the Tyco Electronic web page,Sean educated me in crimping and the cold weld process on battery cables   

[richard5933]

The little cheap crimpers are ok for light work I have one,I wouldn't attempt 4/0 battery cables with one. There is standard for crimping and the small crimpers  16 to 20 tons don't even get close to the193,000 to 231,000 pounds.You can find that chart on the Tyco Electronic web page,Sean educated me in crimping and the cold weld process on battery cables   

I'm certainly no expert on these things, but I've had pretty good results using the hydraulic crimper for 4/0 cable. Maybe not space shuttle quality, but without a doubt better than anything I've been able to do with either a mechanical crimper or a hammer/anvil crimper. Being pretty far from the nearest shop doing cable work that can make cables for me, I've come to rely on my own skills to get things going.

I was not able to find the same numbers on the Tyco site, but I found a chart with the same numbers put out by Molex in a handout on crimp quality. On that chart they were referring to CMA which has something to do with measurement of area, not force. If those numbers are accurate, you're talking about using about 100 tons of force to crimp a cable. To my amateur skill level that seems like space shuttle crimping.

[luvrbus]

The local welding shop that crimps my 4/0 battery cables does have a 100 ton crimper maybe a over kill but I never had any problems with their cables ,most of mine when I saw the gauge were crimped at 120,000

[kyle4501]

I have cut the crimps apart & the individual strands were stuck together pretty darn well. Not exactly all fused together, but many strands were.

So far, so good.

Be careful of the online reviews . . . . Many of the authors are idiots - seen a bunch of bad reviews on battery chargers because you had to plug them in !!!!! 

BTW, the dies for this crimper are a fixed cross section area, so you must use the correct size wire & lug end - otherwise, you won't get 100% compression.
My guess is that most of the bad reviews didn't use the proper lug end or wire.

[DoubleEagle]

The local welding shop that crimps my 4/0 battery cables does have a 100 ton crimper maybe a over kill but I never had any problems with their cables ,most of mine when I saw the gauge were crimped at 120,000

At that level of pressure, it would be considered a cold weld. How is that priced? It seems that would be preferable compared to the 10 ton or so hand units, which might do a decent job, but not as good as 60 tons.