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Webasto
« on: June 01, 2018, 12:32:46 PM »
Anyone have a spare 12v coil?
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2018, 12:36:07 PM »
How many do you want?  Call Lloyd DeGerald.  He has some and can probably ship them out today.  501 258 8426
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2018, 12:37:35 PM »
I have complete unit I will check and see if it is 24 or 12v and let you know,I saw your post on F/B and was going to look 
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2018, 12:45:37 PM »
I replace this less than 200 hrs ago.  The price of new, like anything Webasto is crazy.  I should figure a way to hook a generic dual terminal 12v coil to it.  After all, a coil is a coil.....
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2018, 04:02:11 PM »
I bought a dual Harley coil for that $ame reason.  I'm not sure if it would work, my problem turned out to be the flame sensor.  It's been so long I don't remember the details.  I now have the Webasto factory test box, and a lot of NOS parts.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2018, 04:07:06 PM »
I read where MCI will not offer a Webasto in their buses now because they give so any problems they have gone to Pro/Heat a Canadian made unit
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2018, 04:35:10 PM »
I guess I need to research and see what exactly the OEM coil puts out and go from there.  I dont mind paying but this Webasto stuff is way out of line.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2018, 04:42:08 PM »
Aren't they just 8000 volts ?
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2018, 04:47:18 PM »
Good question.  Just how much output can there be from a 12v coil?
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2018, 05:41:13 AM »
I've been working on a 35 year old chainsaw and used a small dirt bike coil I found on eBay for $12.  The new coil worked great, but the electronic ignition is weak and unobtainum, so I am building my own.  I'm sure the Harley Davidson coil would work, size might be a problem.  I had to mount the dirt bike coil on the outside of the saw, the same could be done with the Webasto.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2018, 05:54:17 AM »
I read where MCI will not offer a Webasto in their buses now because they give so any problems they have gone to Pro/Heat a Canadian made unit
I have had my Scholastic (DBW 2010) heater for 20 years and it has been great once I learned how to use it by getting rid of air locks in the system.  Only the flame sensor went out, all the other problems were self-created.  Why would a ProHeat be better?  They are made the same.  Maybe something changed in the last 20 years.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2018, 06:41:09 AM »
I don't know is Pro/Heat is better or not,I just read where MCI dropped the Webasto for to many problems,they give problems I know several guys that carve out a good living working on the Webasto's in the Aqua/Hots.I never cared for my Webasto's I have one in my DL3 that is coming out  
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2018, 09:05:38 AM »
For such a simple design, I've yet to figure out why there are problems.  Now, if someone could make one out of generic parts, they'd have something.

I'm thinking I may have pinched coil wires, which I'll check when I get back on Monday.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2018, 09:28:37 AM »
Wouldn't that be nice, the price of a friggn fuel pump where do the get that from  ???
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2018, 09:53:18 AM »
Wouldn't that be nice, the price of a friggn fuel pump where do the get that from  ???

The DBW 2010 fuel pump puts out 145 psi.  Just use a Detroit fuel pump and a heavier relief spring.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2018, 10:17:24 AM »
We ought to have a dedicated Webasto thread or sticky.  For fixes, tips, hacks, etc.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2018, 04:57:35 PM »
My MCI has a Primus System. Whats the difference? is one better or worse? By the way no it doesn't work, and sense I don't know anything about it I have chosen to leave it alone.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2018, 05:05:56 PM »
Primus is a propane unit I had one in my Eagle a simple unit to work on.Join the Blue Bird Group they all have the Primus heat 
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2018, 01:02:27 PM »
Like a bus, Webasto, Aqua-Hot and Hydro-Hot units do not like sitting idle.  These units like to be worked.  Part of your monthly checklist should be to fire up your unit to blow out the cobwebs.  We ran two articles in our June 2016 issue one by Bruce Fay and one by Lloyd DeGerald about servicing and maintaining these units.  You can read the articles by clicking here...
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If you have any questions about any of these units, call Lloyd DeGerald as this is all he does is travels around to different RV venues and work on these units.  He services mine every January in Quartzsite and has a regular customer list of folks he hits around the country and pretty much tunes these systems up annually so they keep on running.  Check out his website at http://lloyddegerald.com/.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2018, 12:41:12 PM »
Looks like I dodged that bullet; pinched wires under the coil.

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Re: Webasto
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2018, 04:43:43 PM »
Sometimes we get lucky. Cherish it.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2018, 04:58:55 PM »
I'm dreading digging into my Webasto.  P.O. unhooked a lot of things and I'm uncertain the last time it was used.  Might warrant a "rebuild"
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2018, 06:19:38 PM »
do tell...does that magnifying glass light the roach... ;D
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2018, 06:21:55 PM »
You're dating yourself, LOL!
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2018, 07:18:57 PM »
I'm dreading digging into my Webasto.  P.O. unhooked a lot of things and I'm uncertain the last time it was used.  Might warrant a "rebuild"

Can't be any worse than when I fired up the Webasto on our old 4106 for the first time. Started smelling roasting chestnuts, and then looked out the window to see a stream of flaming red-hot acorns and walnuts flying from the end of the exhaust pipe. Couldn't shut the thing down fast enough.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2018, 03:42:25 AM »
WOW! is that a Craftsman screwdriver? Neat. lol
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2018, 06:21:09 AM »
Can't be any worse than when I fired up the Webasto on our old 4106 for the first time. Started smelling roasting chestnuts, and then looked out the window to see a stream of flaming red-hot acorns and walnuts flying from the end of the exhaust pipe. Couldn't shut the thing down fast enough.


And that is exactly why you inspect an unused device before turning it on, firing it up, etc.

Take the business end off the unit, and clean out the burning chamber before setting fire to your bus...

Thanks for sharing, vicarious living is how we all save money!

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Re: Webasto
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2018, 06:34:17 AM »
That coil looks very different than mine.  Mine is round and looks like a gas engine coil.  Or like a Harley coil with two outputs.
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2018, 07:38:13 AM »
WOW! is that a Craftsman screwdriver? Neat. lol

You noticed that "Made In USA" bit, too?
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Re: Webasto
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2018, 07:40:11 AM »
That coil looks very different than mine.  Mine is round and looks like a gas engine coil.  Or like a Harley coil with two outputs.

Ha, it may just be.  I've never seen any different shape than this.  This sits recessed, which is why the wires got pinched.  Not Webastos fault, I had something to do with it, and there was a reason.  If I could only remember what that reason was.....
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