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Re: 4108 - Weight
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2019, 06:02:05 PM »
I believe GM used similar method in door jam of 1970s cars too.
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Re: 4108 - Weight
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2019, 06:25:59 PM »
I love reproducing decals!
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Re: 4108 - Weight
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2019, 06:34:06 PM »
What method are you using to reproduce those? Especially the red one - looks like it's printed on metallic background.
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Re: 4108 - Weight
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2019, 07:26:58 AM »
I am not personally reproducing them. Yes, some are silver foil type. I have a very talented artist at "Fast Signs" here in town. I take measurements, and good photos, and he does the rest. Sometimes they charge me $50 or so "artist time" if he has to re-draw some decals, or create a custom font that does not exist. Then it's a few dollars per decal (for small interior examples). He has done interior/exterior decals for several coaches around the country. You can spend thousands for exterior, especially if you do reflective as the originals mostly were. He seems to enjoy getting the details exactly correct. Most any place that does vinyl decals can do this work. The key is finding a place that cares about the details. Here's a few exterior examples he did.
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Re: 4108 - Weight
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2019, 07:49:13 AM »
I've had push button directions printed on thin brushed aluminum material 20 years ago. There are many small shops that can do this work nowadays. You just need to visit a couple to ask about their capabilities.
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Re: 4108 - Weight
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2019, 03:17:47 AM »
I think I may have found the answer to why GM gave the 4905 has a higher front axle GAWR than the 4108.

In the service manual I found a line which showed that the 4905 came stock with 12.5x22.5 tires while the 4108 came with 12.0x22.5 tires.

The only difference in the front end specs of the two buses I've been able to find is this tire difference, and it could explain why the 4905 has a 12,000lbs front GAWR and not the 11,000lbs GAWR of the 4108.

Just a theory but I thought I'd throw it out there. Of course, none of us actually know what the engineers had in mind or what they based their numbers on, but I enjoy hunting down things like this.
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1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

 

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