Fire hazard depends on the lithium chemistry. LFP (LiFePo4) are more, actually very stable while lipo (lithium polymer) or Lithium-Ion do have greater risk of catching fire. There have been many houses burnt down when ebike batteries go wrong.
What type does the Telsa use lol I have friend here in Scottsdale that is having his battery pack replaced you can buy a nice bus conversion for what that is costing him
Elon has his own battery factory in Sparks, NV. I am suprised you are not an investor. The guy I bought my Eagle from is. Elon makes his own batteries but not sure what type they are. A friend of mine owns a Tesla and loves it. He gave me a ride in it and it took off with such force I spilled my beer. Great car. The interesting thing is the he retired in March and his plan was to drive across the U.S. He told me the display in the car which is connected to satellites show him where all of the Tesla charging stations are and how many miles to get to them adn the charge he will have left when he arrives. The charging stations are free to Tesla owners (some are run by generators in remote locations). He said he will have no problem traveling across the U.S. and finding charging stations. If he does have a problem finding a charging station, like if he starts traveling off the beaten path, he has the adaptors to quick charge his car at any RV park, or even any 120V outlet at a gas station, but that would take longer of course. I am waiting for the Tesla bus to come out so too can travel across the country and get free power at his stations and ride in a bus and only hear the wind noise. I will let you know when I get ready so you can give me a small cash infusion Cliff.
Ebike and electric Skateboard batteries are not the same as the Lion Energy Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. They are a higher risk type of lithium that is much more likely to catch fire. That being said, if you watch this 12 minute video, you will realize that it very difficult to start a Lion Energy battery on fire. https://youtu.be/psV4EJ4WsakIf in doubt, use the BCM 15% discount and order one of these batteries by using the link at the beginning of this thread and order one of these batteries yourself and get out your 12 Gage and pop off a few shots. Plz share your video on here so the rest of us will not have to duplicate this experiment and use up our shells. Now you know the rest of the story, you can feel free to take your bus on your next hunting trip.
This guy has been around for awhile and does many tests on all kinds of solar and battery things and is very knowledgeable. He is telling all about both batteries. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRe9TWEEoI0
I asked the head of Engineering at Lion Energy about some of the concerns that Will Prowse brought up and here is his respons so you will know more about the Lion Energy batteries and why they are not UL rated.The UL listing does give consumers additional confidence in the safety of a product. However, I find that it hinders a company's ability to make continuous improvements in their products. For example, if we create an improved version of the BMS software, then we lose the UL listing if we upgrade the software. If a manufacturer of one of the components on the BMS goes out of business in China, then we lose the UL listing as soon as we buy that single tiny component from another supplier. In addition, it is very expensive to get a UL listing (usually over $100,000 to get tested and listed with UL). Most companies are forced to pass that cost along to their customers. Also, I have read the testing spec for UL 2054 (this is the UL listing that the Battle Born battery has), and I'm very confident that our battery would pass if we submitted it for testing. It lists tests such as: drop test, overcharging test and various temperature extreme tests. All of which our BMS and cells are designed to handle. When it comes to the terminal posts, I'm not really sure what Will's complaint is. They are designed the way they are to provide as much flexibility when connecting as possible. I hate that if I want to hook anything to a Battle Born battery I have to go down to Fastenal first to get some sort of connectors or adapters. If he's worried about them heating up too much, then I can assure you that we do repeated charge and discharge tests in our facility at max current and do not have problems with them overheating. Our very first battery models (the old UT 1200s) had some issues with heat under extreme conditions that we were able to quickly identify and correct (something we would not have been able to do if we were worried about the UL listing). Hopefully this helps. UL testing is mostly for insurance reasons for product liability to cover their @$#,not really for the consumer.Walmart came up they wanted all fire hydrant's all UL when the price went to $3000.00 each they decided the $550.00 hydrants were ok , very same fire hydrant only with UL cast on the barrel same seats and every nut and bolt
I asked the head of Engineering at Lion Energy about some of the concerns that Will Prowse brought up and here is his respons so you will know more about the Lion Energy batteries and why they are not UL rated.The UL listing does give consumers additional confidence in the safety of a product. However, I find that it hinders a company's ability to make continuous improvements in their products. For example, if we create an improved version of the BMS software, then we lose the UL listing if we upgrade the software. If a manufacturer of one of the components on the BMS goes out of business in China, then we lose the UL listing as soon as we buy that single tiny component from another supplier. In addition, it is very expensive to get a UL listing (usually over $100,000 to get tested and listed with UL). Most companies are forced to pass that cost along to their customers. Also, I have read the testing spec for UL 2054 (this is the UL listing that the Battle Born battery has), and I'm very confident that our battery would pass if we submitted it for testing. It lists tests such as: drop test, overcharging test and various temperature extreme tests. All of which our BMS and cells are designed to handle. When it comes to the terminal posts, I'm not really sure what Will's complaint is. They are designed the way they are to provide as much flexibility when connecting as possible. I hate that if I want to hook anything to a Battle Born battery I have to go down to Fastenal first to get some sort of connectors or adapters. If he's worried about them heating up too much, then I can assure you that we do repeated charge and discharge tests in our facility at max current and do not have problems with them overheating. Our very first battery models (the old UT 1200s) had some issues with heat under extreme conditions that we were able to quickly identify and correct (something we would not have been able to do if we were worried about the UL listing). Hopefully this helps.
I doubt any of the lifepo4 batteries are better than the others they all made with Chinese parts probably from the same manufacture in China.
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