Author Topic: manual (Read 2761 times)

olebusman · « **on:** April 26, 2021, 04:15:40 PM »

I've lost 1/2 of my shop manual for my 4106. Does anyone have a original manual they are willing to part with. I don't like the copies with the pictures you can't make out. I've had mine since 93 and its been well used now I have lost the part I need. It was only one book but had broken in 1/2 over the years. Anybody?

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2021, 08:01:52 PM »

John
I have a very good copy of the manual as well as the supplement book. As you know it is large and I can have it copied if you want or can't get another copy. It isn't cheap to copy but I will do it for you if you want. I also have the CD I had my copy made from with the supplement manual as well. There is no wiring on the CD only the printed copy. I assume you have the original wiring diagrams.

olebusman · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2021, 07:00:41 AM »

Bill, I'm not very computer savvy so is there any way to send the cd to my computer. Maybe someone can explain how to do it in simple terms. olebusman

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2021, 04:58:22 PM »

John
I tried to call your cell phone but no answer. I can't send to an email as the file is way too large. I can mail it to you if you want. It can be printed off at any print shop. There is no wiring diagrams with it. Call me at 905-873-8929.

richard5933 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2021, 05:00:59 AM »

If you guys both use a cloud service like One Drive or Google Drive you can transfer the file that way. One guy uploads it and then shares the file with the other, who logs in and downloads it. Best way to send very large files.

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2021, 05:26:03 AM »

Richard
Remember you are talking to a couple of old guys that are not computer wizzes. The easiest way is the old fashioned mail for us.

richard5933 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2021, 08:21:28 AM »

Quote from: Bill Gerrie on April 28, 2021, 05:26:03 AM

Richard
Remember you are talking to a couple of old guys that are not computer wizzes. The easiest way is the old fashioned mail for us.

Ok - I get the old guy thing but let's get real. How hard is it to use One Drive or Google Drive? It's really no more difficult than moving a file from one folder on your PC to another.

If you can't figure it out, call your grandkids and have them show you. It's not that tough. If you can understand the brakes on a bus or rewire an entire bus you can certainly handle transferring a file from one PC to another.

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2021, 09:00:43 AM »

Okay Richard. You shamed me. I will get my son to control my computer and send it for me.

olebusman · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2021, 10:55:44 AM »

Damn, I hope I can figure out how to get it

olebusman · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2021, 10:58:11 AM »

Bill, I tried to call but I guess I can't call out of the country.

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2021, 02:55:11 PM »

John
For some reason I can't call your cell phone. I have no problem calling anyone else in the USA and I believe I have called you before. cell 352 ---7762 ? It says your home phone is disconnected. 352---9731 I need your email address to try to send the file.

chessie4905 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2021, 08:25:53 PM »

area code?

buswarrior · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2021, 09:26:59 PM »

Richard, mark the words of the insightful old men who went before us...

"Your turn will come"

Bill and olebusman have both been there and done plenty. It is a great thing they are on here, keeping on trying. Many of their pioneering peers are out there at bus rallies, when their health allows, and not on the computer at all.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #13 on:** April 29, 2021, 06:39:48 AM »

Buswarrior
Olebusman is the other one that did the Bill Teal overdrive unit. That makes only three in existence including the original Teal one. Too bad more didn't do it as it is amazing. I met John a few years ago when we visited FL. I left my wife and sister in the car while I talked to John for over an hour. Needless to say I was in dep trouble when time passed and they came to see what I was doing. Of course I had to make it good so all of us including John and his wife went to lunch.

chessie4905 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 29, 2021, 09:46:08 AM »

I have the makings for a 4th, but need a vs2-6 for the rest of the parts.
sems any 6's left are opposide side of country.

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #15 on:** April 29, 2021, 01:53:06 PM »

Chessie
Too bad you didn't continue to do it. I have run it since 2006 with great results. I did break the input shaft in the middle of the Canada/USA bridge and shut down the border for 20 minutes. When I removed the trans I saw what caused it and redid the shaft so as to not happen again. I am running a 6V92TA with 1000 ft lbs of torque so I work it. Well worth tracking down a VS2-6 for the gear set.

chessie4905 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 29, 2021, 02:11:05 PM »

I will after I find a VS2-6 doner.

luvrbus · « **Reply #17 on:** April 29, 2021, 02:16:08 PM »

LOL sure glad you guys found something a VS was good for lol I don't think oil people even make a fluid for that anymore

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #18 on:** April 29, 2021, 05:29:34 PM »

This is what I did with one. No oil needed luvrbus just the trans oil.

olebusman · « **Reply #19 on:** April 30, 2021, 09:26:22 AM »

Yep, well worth doing. If that is all that was stopping me from completing it I would do a road trip to get the parts. They work good. I think Teal was a genius.

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #20 on:** April 30, 2021, 02:33:14 PM »

Olebusman
My friend in MI called your cell phone and left a message for you to call him with your address or email so I can get you the manual if you still need it.

chessie4905 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 30, 2021, 06:15:07 PM »

I wonder if GM had that idea in mind when they designed the v730. The VS2's had a appliable overdrive. The 730 has those blank bosses in the bell housing... Why are they there? All that dead space in bell housing. Wonder if GM had an idea to incorporate the overdrive into it, but dropped the idea as not needed or whatever.

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #22 on:** April 30, 2021, 07:20:33 PM »

You might have something there Chessie. It really is a shame they never did it. The bosses for the bolts to hold the plate line up perfectly with the VS2 retainer fitted in the body of the V730.

olebusman · « **Reply #23 on:** May 01, 2021, 09:54:34 AM »

Yea, but the retainer has to be machined to work.

chessie4905 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 01, 2021, 12:27:19 PM »

Yes but still curious. Love to find an old Allison engineer familiar in designing that.

Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #25 on:** May 01, 2021, 04:24:27 PM »

John
Email me direct at retiredbusnut@yahoo.com and I will try to get my son to attach the cd and how you can download it.

olebusman · « **Reply #26 on:** May 02, 2021, 08:00:26 AM »

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Bill Gerrie · « **Reply #28 on:** May 02, 2021, 03:28:50 PM »

John
Check your email.