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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2022, 08:28:30 PM »
Where would I get a screen for the stove?  Do you remember where you got yours?

Great buy on a great stove! Heck new in 1990 we paid $525 for the Heirloom! The 6" catalytic is $100 these days. We burn oak from our woods - great stuff. With the stove loaded and catalytic engaged it'll do an 8 hour burn with coals enough to start another round. Love the ash tray for easy dump. It's a 60,000 btu stove @ 23" log. We have a screen for open burning like a fireplace for social aesthetics but it eats wood in that mode. In the photo we've been using a 1500W heating element in the stove - it maintains 400F & warms the living room & loft above so far this winter. Tomorrow the chimney cap comes off for all out wood burning as our winter finally is arriving (low 30s) We bump it's max temp on catalytic @ 1800F.
The 2nd photo is our smaller Jotul 602 @ 16" log- It's in a small shelter in Tok AK side by side with a vintage Sears & Roebuck oil burner at 60,000btu total.
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2022, 08:39:52 PM »
Where would I get a screen for the stove?  Do you remember where you got yours?

The screen came with the stove but it's not shown anywhere in the instructions nor parts list. It would be easy to fabricate one.
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2022, 05:20:18 AM »
Speaking of creosote buildup, I have a friend who used to intentionally create a chimney fire at least once a year just so he wouldn't have to hire a chimney sweep. He had little concern for what wood he was burning since as he said it, he was going to burn it all out anyway and afterwards the chimney was cleaner than any sweep could get it. Sounds risky doesn't it? But I guess he figured as long as it was a controlled burn (using the damper so that flames didn't shoot too far out of the top) it wouldn't get hot enough to crack the fire tiles or burn out the mortar. He got by with it but every year his neighbors would call the fire department on him. So he got in the habit of giving them advance notice and they got in the habit of calling before rolling trucks. Be a bit more challenging to do that in a bus but they do have some very nice triple wall stainless flue pipes now.

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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #48 on: January 15, 2022, 06:25:38 AM »
That sounds risky :o :o

I would use at least double wall but triple wall would be even better.  I read a skoolie blog where the guy goes up every few months and runs a brush that attaches to his drill down the chimney.  Seems like a good plan. Burning hard wood is the key.  I can get tons of free pallets as well.  Most of them are hard wood.  If this stove is to big I will just refinish it and sell it.  I am only going to pay 200 for it.  We'll see how it goes.

 
Speaking of creosote buildup, I have a friend who used to intentionally create a chimney fire at least once a year just so he wouldn't have to hire a chimney sweep. He had little concern for what wood he was burning since as he said it, he was going to burn it all out anyway and afterwards the chimney was cleaner than any sweep could get it. Sounds risky doesn't it? But I guess he figured as long as it was a controlled burn (using the damper so that flames didn't shoot too far out of the top) it wouldn't get hot enough to crack the fire tiles or burn out the mortar. He got by with it but every year his neighbors would call the fire department on him. So he got in the habit of giving them advance notice and they got in the habit of calling before rolling trucks. Be a bit more challenging to do that in a bus but they do have some very nice triple wall stainless flue pipes now.

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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #49 on: January 15, 2022, 06:31:17 AM »
Man, I would love it if our winters were in the low 30's :^  Our winters in Wisconsin are brutal with negative digits and lots of wind.  Sometimes the windchill is down to -30.  Our kids school won't close unless it's below zero.  It's just crazy what you can get used to.  The other day it was 35 and it felt like a heat wave. I drive school bus in the mornings and it takes those Cummins a while to warm up!

Great buy on a great stove! Heck new in 1990 we paid $525 for the Heirloom! The 6" catalytic is $100 these days. We burn oak from our woods - great stuff. With the stove loaded and catalytic engaged it'll do an 8 hour burn with coals enough to start another round. Love the ash tray for easy dump. It's a 60,000 btu stove @ 23" log. We have a screen for open burning like a fireplace for social aesthetics but it eats wood in that mode. In the photo we've been using a 1500W heating element in the stove - it maintains 400F & warms the living room & loft above so far this winter. Tomorrow the chimney cap comes off for all out wood burning as our winter finally is arriving (low 30s) We bump it's max temp on catalytic @ 1800F.
The 2nd photo is our smaller Jotul 602 @ 16" log- It's in a small shelter in Tok AK side by side with a vintage Sears & Roebuck oil burner at 60,000btu total.
Nice find!...
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #50 on: January 15, 2022, 06:37:03 AM »
Hard coal doesn't create creosote. Can be left out in rain. Doesn't soak moisture. Does require enough draft to burn. Probably with your short chimney, would require draft blower with thermostatic control.
Some pellets can be less than up to spec. Have a neighbor that uses a pellet stove to heat his house. Of course, it has the round plate that air blows up through and pulleys gravity fed. He's had to deal with sub quality pellets year to year. Sometimes good brand quality changes one year to another. And the burner head needs cleaned regularly from  a creasote like build up.
Has anyone used those pressed mini logs that TSC sells? Might be pricey, never checked. I burn soft coal 8 to 11 tons a year since 1979.
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #51 on: January 15, 2022, 06:45:25 AM »
We have our own chimney sweep & do it once a year- never a problem. Yes FL's winters are a lot like our place in AK's summers - really. Have to run the heat most nights in AK summer. Schools close when temps F go below -30 so it is all relative by geographical area. Of coarse Tok AK being interior can plunge to -70F in winter. Full time residence say the only thing worse than those deep cold temps is the constant darkness of winter. At any rate you got a great buy on a great stove. If it were convenient - I'd trade you for the smaller Jotul you need for your bus. Wish we had our Heirloom in AK but also love it in our FL home!
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2022, 09:14:39 AM »
Oh, I thought you meant Arkansas not Alaska.  That make a big difference.   ;D  Anyhow, I will probably refinish the larger stove and if it's to big for the bus I would sell it to purchase a smaller unit. 

We have our own chimney sweep & do it once a year- never a problem. Yes FL's winters are a lot like our place in AK's summers - really. Have to run the heat most nights in AK summer. Schools close when temps F go below -30 so it is all relative by geographical area. Of coarse Tok AK being interior can plunge to -70F in winter. Full time residence say the only thing worse than those deep cold temps is the constant darkness of winter. At any rate you got a great buy on a great stove. If it were convenient - I'd trade you for the smaller Jotul you need for your bus. Wish we had our Heirloom in AK but also love it in our FL home!
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #53 on: January 15, 2022, 10:20:45 AM »
When you find out it is way too large, you can just leave the windows open. Lol
Two propane furnaces rated at 40k each, would just run a couple times per hour. That stove is going to be pumping out a lot of heat constantly, even on slow burn  and all that metal will cool down slowly. And slow burn, the smoke will find all the cracks in your coach to creep in. Especially on heavy damp days with no air.
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #54 on: January 15, 2022, 01:01:10 PM »
Your probably right.  But at that price and a couple hours work I can easily resell it for double and have a good start to saving for a small unit.  On a small budget I need to think outside the box to finance this build. 

When you find out it is way too large, you can just leave the windows open. Lol
Two propane furnaces rated at 40k each, would just run a couple times per hour. That stove is going to be pumping out a lot of heat constantly, even on slow burn  and all that metal will cool down slowly. And slow burn, the smoke will find all the cracks in your coach to creep in. Especially on heavy damp days with no air.
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2022, 01:57:54 PM »
try this site for ideas as a small wood stove will heat any coach unless there is zero insulation and all windows
if you had to you could burn 2x4 s cut inb to small 8-10 " pieces and that would throw a lot of heat , but hard wood skids would be the best if cut up small . in a small stove there should not be a problem with any chimney cleaning as it would burn the wood fast enough .

I have heated with wood all my life and it is the best warmth you can get . but it's a lot of work



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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2022, 03:37:34 PM »
Oh yeah, everyone says hardwood skids...

Are you handy with the chainsaw file?

Burns great, but there's a cost...

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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2022, 04:09:25 PM »
The Heirloom stove is a tight unit and when closed down produces less than 12,000 btu. If I were heating with wood in a bus to help the furnaces or diesel air heaters it wouldn't be fired up unless it was deep cold and at that point wouldn't be too hot. I agree - nothing feels as good on the bones as wood heat does. IMO
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2022, 06:01:02 PM »
The smaller Jotul 602 retails for over $1,500 - yikes! Inflation floats woodstoves too!
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Re: Wiring for 220v or 110v?
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2022, 06:23:58 PM »
The smaller Jotul 602 retails for over $1,500 - yikes! Inflation floats woodstoves too!

Adjusted for inflation, that stove you bought in 1990 would cost over $1200 in 2021 dollars. So yes, that little stove is an increase but not as serious as it initially looks.

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