Saga of VAN-HOOL TD electric version

[dtcerrato]

Why not carry your own charging plug backed by a large generator?
Hybrid!

[CrabbyMilton]

Well from my impression, ABC didn't want a generator unit following them or towing it. They wanted to test the availability and obviously the quality of the "outlet malls" along the route. Yes, a hybrid version of this TDX would have been the best of both worlds

[windtrader]

The charging network for heavy truck and bus is just barely rolling out, driven in part by Tesla, yet again, to provide charging for the Tesla semi. They have applied for permits and financial support for building out the Giga charging stations between Freemont CA and the TX plant. Hey, gotta start somewhere, might as well be where there will be plenty of traffic and need. LOL

[luvrbus]

I read where we only have 22 charging stations per 1000 miles average for the EV's lol I would be the one that never made it to a charging station,lot of work needed on a already overloaded electric grid system,they have gotten the cart before the horse

[windtrader]

humm. somebody recently suggested stats like this can be misleading. LOL What and where roads were included?

[CrabbyMilton]

Then you throw in that many of these outlet malls have units that either don't work and/or don't have the capacity as advertised. Then you call and get put on hold for up to an hour. No there is much work to be done and that doesn't even address the grid to support all of this pipe dream.

[luvrbus]

humm. somebody recently suggested stats like this can be misleading. LOL What and where roads were included?

It was in one of Bidens cash give away programs I think was the laughable Inflation Reduction Act,Musk the richest person in the world got his slice of the pie, the miles of hiways we have in the USA I can see how they can juggle the numbers to rape taxpayers.

They have to have backup plan for charging EV's probably generators for parts of the country tornadoes, hurricane and ice storms take a power grid out for weeks or months 

[windtrader]

Wind! - tornados and hurricanes are great sources of wind. lol
an ah-ha just now. I always wondered why solar panels are really strong, like you can stand on them. Out here in sunny Calif. we don't think about harsh weather. Panles need to endure much forceful weather but i guess there is a limit - once a tornado rips off a solar panel all bets are off.

crabby - at least for tesla charging network tech,, the app provides to the minute and charging unit, the current status. They have a very robust monitoring infrastructure to keep them up and running.
Now that the EV industry has thrown in the towel on their own charging plugs and adopted the Tesla plug and agreements allowing non-Tesla to use the Tesla system, non-home EV charging is moving quickly.

[usbusin]

But, I don't see or read anything about infrastructure where all this "around the clock" additional power is going to come from to charge all these vehicles that are supposed to replace ICE cars, trucks and buses.

[windtrader]

Watch some Elon youtubes where he lays out his vision for energy storage. Think 'powerwall' and "Megapack'. You should be warned not to be against him. He hits bullseyes far more than missing the target.

[luvrbus]

The largest manufacture of electric buses filed for bankruptcy (Protrra) today,the same outfit involved with the Vanhool

[CrabbyMilton]

That's interesting but not a surprise since many buses equipped with the PROTERRA system have had many problems. CUMMINS also has electric drive system but I don't know if they are better or not. BLUEBIRD uses them.

[windtrader]

Sorry to hear that but there will be more fallen than those left standing in the end. I'm sure there are other electric bus companies that will stay in the fight. For local  transit and regional use, it does work.

[CrabbyMilton]

The largest manufacture of electric buses filed for bankruptcy (Protrra) today,the same outfit involved with the Vanhool

Perhaps there are just internal problems with them and some other company will take them over. If not hey, competition is never a bad thing. At least James and crew made it to the Florida ABC dealer just fine. They had a nice time with the exception of the charging parts.
The only problem with the bus itself was the charging control panel crapped out the second or third day. I'm sure that's 13 days James and his family will never forget.

https://www.youtube.com/live/fjq6vqdKBxA?feature=share

[muldoonman]

The largest manufacture of electric buses filed for bankruptcy (Protrra) today,the same outfit involved with the Vanhool

Yeah and the Lefties 75 miles East of me in Austin ordered 175+ of the buses 2 years ago. Hope they didn't put anything down but bet those Idiot's did.