The right battery with a true "Nationwide" warranty

[Sojourner]

Most posts talk about group 31 battery but it not available as true deep cycle. Although it is my favorite starter battery if it 900 or more cca.

However (unless you are already knowledgeable on battery) before you buy your first “house batteries”….do your self a favor to save money & waste of time. Read the following paragraph’s subject titles:

Starting, Marine, and Deep-Cycle Batteries
Using a deep cycle battery as a starting battery
Battery Construction Materials
Industrial deep cycle batteries
Plate Thickness

Link to above subjects:
http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm

It will only take you about 10 minutes of your time. PS..I reread several times of anything I want to learn. And most of my experience came from early years of farming with dad and General Motor Engineering Lab of 26 years. And my life hand-on repairing customer's automotive, trucks to golf carts.

Group 31 come in two version such as “starter” & starter/deep cycle” (which is marine deep cycle). Also come available in 700 cca (Cold Cranking Ampere at 0°F) to about 1000 cca. House battery has NO ca or cca rating but ampere hour rating number. So be don’t misled into battery that will not fit your need. Plus what you pay is base on how much lead weight (usually battery weight) and what retailer buy the most to sell for less. Battery prices is base on what you want from it. Some deep cycle have very thin lead to very thick plate. Next choice is to select a popular brand & source.

Bottom line is “starter battery” is good for 5% discharge. Common discount marine deep cycle is range from 10%, 20% to 50% before need recharge. A true deep cycle is consist of extra heavy plate & large case for the same ampere hour battery as marine or cheap deep cycle version...means many more 50% discharge recharge cycle.

It all depend how often you recharge at what state of charge and how often you want to replace them.

Might add that house battery system must have a Link 10 (formally E-Meter) if you want to save batteries life & down times. Another word it will pay for itself first time.

10 REASONS TO OWN A LINK 10!
http://www.energyoutfitters.com/default.htm?http://www.energyoutfitters.com/products/p_m_electronics/xantrex_link10.shtm

Manual:
http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/72/docserve.asp

Have NO connection for profit but to share what out there.

FWIW

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry

[Sean]

FWIW,  I have never, ever seen a Group 31 battery, either starting or otherwise, in any Wal-Mart (and I've been in hundreds all across the country).  I have seen them in Sam's Club, but that does me no good since I'm not a member there.  The last time I bought starting batteries at Wal-Mart (to replace, I am not kidding, a pair of 8D's), I have to settle for Group 65 as the largest batteries they had in stock.

To echo Sojourner's comments, it behooves you to read up and learn about the differences between battery types.  Talking about "adjustments" under warranty suggests you are looking at starting batteries, which are unsuitable in any case for house batteries.  Deep-cycle batteries are warranted the same way your TV is -- you need to send them back to the manufacturer, who will make a determination why they failed and decide what sort of compensation, if any, you might be entitled to.  In general, you can go to any distributor for the brand you own to start the warranty process -- it should not matter where you actually bought them.

The concept of bringing the battery back to the store (after it has been used) and getting either a free replacement or a credit towards a new battery, no questions asked, is a concept limited entirely to the highly competitive automotive starting battery market.  And, BTW, you will note that heavy-duty sizes such as 8D, 4D, and sometimes even Group 31, do not qualify for this type of warranty even in the stores and brand names that usually offer it.

You may want to read this topic:
http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=4329.0

Lots of good discussion there, and do check out the other link I posted in that topic (in addition to the same one Sojourner posted):
http://www.phrannie.org/battery.html

HTH.

-Sean
http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com