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Offline 4106-123

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4104 and 4106 skin
« on: January 30, 2008, 07:56:56 PM »
which panels are interchangable between these 2 models i can see the tailgate is different.  side panels and bay doors?

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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2008, 08:13:54 PM »
not much really, all the flutted panels are different

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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 12:03:53 AM »
Doug's right.

The fluting is closer together on the 4104 - it's the same as the Scenicruisers.

The 4106's is also different than the Buffalo's.

MCI 5s and 7s match each other, as do 8s and 9s.  None of the MCIs match the 4104.

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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2008, 05:34:20 AM »
MCI 5s and 7s match each other, as do 8s and 9s.  None of the MCIs match the 4104

MC-5A Flute spacing matches the MC-7.  MC-5C matches the MC-8 & 9. Not sure about the MC-5B.  Prevost has a spacing that seems to different than all of the above.  Jack
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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2008, 06:00:24 PM »
im trying to find some that will fit a 4106. i put a dent in the  first large baggage door on the pass side. i guess i can try to find a whole door, anybody know what these go for? maybe some one knows were one is around wilmington nc?

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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2008, 07:13:25 PM »
the lower door skin is common between all GM 4104 and on but came in different lengths for the different length doors.

upper flutted skin is 4106 only

available used here and threr or reproductions from International bus parts

whole Door:  Deans Coach in NC maybe

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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2008, 02:52:42 PM »
IBP makes it all. They faithfully reproduce all the styles of fluting in the panels you need.
International Bus Parts.

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O/T, anyone know how Rich is doing, formerly of IPB, and a great supporter of the Boards when he was there?

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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2008, 03:00:44 PM »
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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2008, 05:34:33 PM »
i called ibp a few months ago they wanted close to$600 for the 12 inch wide panel that goes above the rear wheel  on my 4106 ill shop for a used one!

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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2008, 05:56:27 PM »
what do you expect it should cost?

look at what a fender on a F-150 cost nowdays


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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2008, 09:41:49 PM »
Ford F150 Fender
Replacement 9836

Original Price: $183.03
You Save: $19.61 (12%)
New Price: $163.42
 well i would pay $300 for the one i wanted. its a 12 wide by 30 in piece of flat aluminium with a few ribs i did not  want it anodized. i just bought a 4 by 8 by .090 sheet of 5000 series aluminium for $85.00

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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2008, 12:41:38 AM »
so retail of 180.00 plus tax on a fender that will fit tens of thousands of trucks...thus the low cost economy of scale BS.......oh made out of crappy thin steel to boot.

600.00 for a nice hunk of tooled anodized aluminum for a vehicle that may be luck if 2000 are still on the road...and only 10 of those owners are willing to spend a dime on their bus.

makes purfect sense to me.




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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2008, 05:45:06 AM »
I am pretty sure IBP does not keep all the panels in stock for the older buses, but makes them as needed. So in addition to cost of material and profit margin, you are paying machine set-up time to run one panel. Set-up time is probably much longer than run time.  Jack
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Re: 4104 and 4106 skin
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2008, 07:16:13 AM »
used door on ebay for 300....becuase it is easy to take off the bus they are scrapping.



I get people with sticker shock on parts that I ask twice what the published 1978 GM Price lists it as.


 

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