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Bus Discussion => Bus Topics ( click here for quick start! ) => Topic started by: lvmci on July 13, 2021, 10:58:32 AM
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Interesting article on crossing the border, from the US...
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2nd part
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3rd part
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Who the heck wants to go to Canada anyway?
WHOOPS, I live there. ;D ;D ;D
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didnt that pipeline that was canceled, come from Canada?
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Easier to read here:
https://campersmarts.com/crossing-the-canadian-border-in-an-rv
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Thanks Wildbob
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President Biden revoked the permit for the keystone pipeline from Canada to the US, shortly after taking office. So Trudeau does a tit for tat. Screw the US bastards. I'll keep our border closed due to "Covid concerns" feasible?
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President Biden revoked the permit for the keystone pipeline from Canada to the US, shortly after taking office. So Trudeau does a tit for tat. Screw the US bastards. I'll keep our border closed due to "Covid concerns" feasible?
Probably something much more mundane that this.
Lots of Canadians with winter vacation spots in Florida and other southern states lost out last year, probably as many or more than Americans losing out from going north.
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you mean "possibly"
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I would just stay away from Canada all together until all this Covid crap goes away. Canada is still locked down. They are only allowing US tourists to drive through to Alaska. If you deviate from your route, you WILL be arrested. So trying to be a tourist in Canada will not happen now, the police in Canada are being quite extreme. Just go somewhere else besides Canada, for now. Good Luck, TomC
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Thus these reasons why we chose not to do AK this year. Did the Alcan twice & now desire to explore Yukon a bit as it is our next door neighbor from Tok AK...
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Can they stop for food or fuel while going through?
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I lived in Alaska for 13 years. Made the Alcan trip I think 4 times, mostly to attend schools for the military in the lower 48. Waaay too long to make it without fuel a couple of times. It is a long way from points in BC to the border and soon after, TOK Alaska, with lots of fuel sucking hills. Alaska is a huge place. If you cut it in half, Texas is still 3rd, and it has more coastline than the lower 48.
However. You can go from Tok to Fairbanks, south to Anchorage, maybe more south to Homer or Seward, and back out to TOK. If you make that "loop", you have seen some of the SE 1/4 of the state. I worked for the military up there. Got to see a lot of it from the air. Amazing place and we loved it there, but winters got progressively depressing. Not from the cold but the darkness in winter. Rita was way ready for more sun, so when a slot opened up to finish my 24 year career back in home state of Colorado, we departed. Took our 29 foot Winnebago Brave out of there in late May 2000. Almost nothing open that early and barely made fuel points. Took us 3 1/2 days. But what an adventure. I recommend traveling in pairs. It is a long way between help along the way.
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We've been as far north as the Arctic circle (6-7 hrs N of Fairbanks) and as far south as Seward & the Homer Spit - not counting Hyder AK farther south in Western Canada. 10-4 on the fuel sucking & brake burning hills. We love it & the drive. We've heard that quite often about the only thing worse than -60F is the darkness. Thanks for the visions you posted & your service.
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I would just stay away from Canada all together until all this Covid crap goes away. Canada is still locked down. They are only allowing US tourists to drive through to Alaska. If you deviate from your route, you WILL be arrested. So trying to be a tourist in Canada will not happen now, the police in Canada are being quite extreme. Just go somewhere else besides Canada, for now. Good Luck, TomC
Sad to hear that. Canada is really making things worse for themselves. In some ways, it sounds like having to travel thru East Germany to get to West Berlin when you were at the mercy of the East Germans to get there. I've only been to Alaska once in 2006 and it's beautiful. So I guess it's best just to fly up there for now.
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You have to live in Ak.or have a legitimate job up there. Alaska forum says some work amp jobs have been rejected. Those let through have to use a specific route, no sightseeing, fuel and food only and specific number of hours to reach the northern border, which is just about straight through with much time for any stops. And they check the time when you arrive.
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Can they stop for food or fuel while going through?
Yes to both but your going to wish you didn't need fuel when you see the Canadian gas/diesel prices
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Yes to both but your going to wish you didn't need fuel when you see the Canadian gas/diesel prices
2016 & 2019 FL AK FL road trips we thought that anyway - for everything not just fuel or not just Canada but Alaska too. I told wifey who is very expenditure mindful that one has to get past the sticker shock asap and just enjoy the trip... We love that run - not now though, hopefully next year...
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We import most of our Aluminum from Canada lol price a sheet of it now if you can find one,bad move pulling the permit for Keystone it going to cost the US 15 billion just for the pipeline and more in other materials I don't blame Canada but it did screw up a trip
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Look like the border will be open August 9, 2021.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/canada-border-coronavirus/2021/07/19/id/1029162/ (https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/canada-border-coronavirus/2021/07/19/id/1029162/)
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That would make an Ak.trip pretty short.
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Too short for this year for sure...
For the expense & miles traveled we try to squeeze every possible day out of that trip...
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Border open my @$#...
We are letting you come up here, you aren't letting us come down there...
Maybe better be sure you will be allowed to return home, if you leave...
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
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Border open my @$#...
We are letting you come up here, you aren't letting us come down there...
Maybe better be sure you will be allowed to return home, if you leave...
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Remember, there are two borders there - the US border and the Canadian border. All that I've heard about is that the Canadian border is opening to vaccinated US tourists. Have heard nothing about the US border opening to Canadian tourists.
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Strange how friggn politics can piss off you best neighbor and people on both sides have nothing to do with it
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True but people get the govt. they deserve. That goes for both sides.
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Sad to hear that. Canada is really making things worse for themselves. In some ways, it sounds like having to travel thru East Germany to get to West Berlin when you were at the mercy of the East Germans to get there. I've only been to Alaska once in 2006 and it's beautiful. So I guess it's best just to fly up there for now.
Actually you need to reread your history. It was not at the mercy of the East Germans it was at the mercy of the Russian's.
My wife who was stationed there saw your comment and said to tell you that....... :^
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I realize that Dave and you and your lovely wife are correct. I know that East Germany was pretty much an annexation of the Soviet Union but I was just illustrating that for geographic purposes.
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All of Berlin was occupied; the West by US, England and France, East Berlin was occupied by Russia.
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As unwelcome and unpleasant the current situation is with the border(s) being closed between the US and Canada, I think that there's a HUGE chasm between what's happening now and what happened in the years after WWII.
No country/city is being occupied by a foreign power here. This is just not the same thing and I believe that using comparisons between the two only serves to minimize the events of WWII and the ensuing years.
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I would agree but the same restrictions more or less. Not a postwar situation but a huge pain in the keaster.
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I would agree but the same restrictions more or less. Not a postwar situation but a huge pain in the keaster.
Well, maybe the same as far as the border being closed.
Not so much as far as the starvation and the immediate death sentence for those trying to cross without permission and shot on sight. Haven't heard too many reports of anyone being shot trying to cross the US/Canadian border recently.
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That’s fair enough and I certainly don’t downplay the focal point of the Cold War. I was just taking an abstract view based on transportation issues.
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That’s fair enough and I certainly don’t downplay the focal point of the Cold War. I was just taking an abstract view based on transportation issues.
I know that to most people this is functionally the same looking at it from 20,000 feet. It's just starting to bother me when people make so many comparisons between things we're going through nowadays which are a PITA and things which happened in recent history (and still happening in some parts of the world) which were truly horrendous.
The more we use speech which catastrophizes things which are not truly a catastrophe, the more we demean things which truly are.
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"I think that there's a HUGE chasm between what's happening now and what happened in the years after WWII."
There are a lot of people who fled places like Poland and came to the west who claim what they escaped from started in a similar fashion to what we have now.
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"I think that there's a HUGE chasm between what's happening now and what happened in the years after WWII."
There are a lot of people who fled places like Poland and came to the west who claim what they escaped from started in a similar fashion to what we have now.
I think a much better comparison is what happened in the US during the flu pandemic at the start of the 20th century. Very much the same as what we've seen over the past year and a half, including quarantines and border closings.
Lots of my family didn't make it out of Eastern Europe at the start of WWII. The stories I've heard from those that did were nothing like what we've seen in recent months. Not at the start, and certainly not at the end.
I understand that to some people things may feel similar, but looked at objectively they are not.
The border closings being discussed in this thread are temporary and things will return to normal at some point.
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The way you do it close the boarder of a well developed,a long time allies and trading partner country and open the south boarder to all, that is the way we do it in the USA
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The way you do it close the boarder of a well developed,a long time allies and trading partner country and open the south boarder to all, that is the way we do it in the USA
This is a whole other conversation.
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This is a whole other conversation.
Not really 1 boarder is north the other is south both should be the same,I have friends on both sides that cannot come across either boarder legally
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Not really 1 boarder is north the other is south both should be the same,I have friends on both sides that cannot come across either boarder legally
I said that it's a whole other conversation, because of your mention of the southern border being 'open', which I assume is a reference to the policies of the administration with regard to illegal crossings. There is no way to get into this without it becoming political, and that doesn't typically end well.
The official rules for legal border crossings are not really different for the US/Mexico border and the US/Canada border right now - essential travel only. It is not, as you said, one border open and one closed. Both borders had their restrictions extended to Aug. 21st according to the latest from the State Dept.
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I am not trying to be political I just know what going on down south because I live close ,restrictions should apply at both boarders but it isn't the same,I am not into politics, just into right and wrong.Gary has lock button if it gets pollical
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There is a huge difference in being theoretical and being practical,, theoretically the south border is closed.. But practically it is wide open as evidenced by the huge increase of fentanyl and other drug deaths in our major cities.. ( not to mention 188K migrants a month crossing the "closed" border..>>>Dan
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I don't disagree with you guys about the porosity of the southern border and the problems which come with it.
That conversation is an important one and one worthy of having.
However, to me it's not the same conversation as one about the current situation with the covid-related closure of legal crossings. This is why I said it's a whole other conversation.
It's possible for their to be multiple different conversations in the US about borders, and they don't all have to happen simultaneously.
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On a 60 minute report, there were many children reported, that cross the border to go to school in the US everyday, moms and dads that work on long term jobs in US and cross back for the night to the MEX border towns. I know of a couple companies in southern CA, that moved their hazardous material portion of their business right across the border, while keeping their lighter equipment part of their business in CA...
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On a 60 minute report, there were many children reported, that cross the border to go to school in the US everyday, moms and dads that work on long term jobs in US and cross back for the night to the MEX border towns. I know of a couple companies in southern CA, that moved their hazardous material portion of their business right across the border, while keeping their lighter equipment part of their business in CA...
Like moving the power plant from Laughlin to Mexico because pollution was to bad now it is South of us and guess which way the wind comes from in the summer here
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I wonder how many crossing the border get Covid checks? We have had issues at Penn State with so many international students attending and covid case numbers high. Seem to finally be going down. Campgrounds around Honesdale and Poconos area and hotels saw a huge of influx of New Yorkers way above normal. Tough to find spots in Campgrounds.
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I have been going back and forth across the border at Yuma for dental work during the last couple of weeks....nobody at the Mexican entry, coming into the US all they ask about is medications or purpose of visit.
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going ot for sure but what is the experiences with dental work done south of the border? PM if desired. thanks
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going ot for sure but what is the experiences with dental work done south of the border? PM if desired. thanks
Choose the dentist carefully they have some that were sidewalk sweeper yesterday after Sonja's dental work done there hind sight I would have been better off to pay the US prices like I am doing now to have fixed from dental work done in Mexico
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Don’t do it if you can help it. A friend of my mom’s went down there for a procedure to save money. She saved money but several problems came up later and then she had to spend a ton of money to have a credible American dentist just to fix what the idiot goofed up.
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We were in Algodonis once and saw an ambulance backed up to a dentist office and someone being carried out on a stretcher. Wasn't you was it Ed?
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very common here. Reaction when the patient gets his bill.🤣
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very common here. Reaction when the patient gets his bill.🤣
So true I have spent over 15k on Sonja's dental work so far and still have another $7304.90 to go in Aug all because of a $4500.00 dentist in Mexico
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Wasn't me Mark, never had to take a ride in an ambulance so far......
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I had determined the Mex dentistry quality is more miss than hit. But my plans to get the work done in Thailand are derailed with COVID. There are very high quality medical services in Thailand and cost savings are substantial. Getting recommendations from long time locals makes it worth the gamble; otherwise, could be a Mex situation if not careful.
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Im glad my nephew is a dentist. Only charges me half or less when I do any electrical work for him.
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I would just stay away from Canada all together until all this Covid crap goes away. Canada is still locked down. They are only allowing US tourists to drive through to Alaska. If you deviate from your route, you WILL be arrested. So trying to be a tourist in Canada will not happen now, the police in Canada are being quite extreme. Just go somewhere else besides Canada, for now. Good Luck, TomC
At the risk of putting this thread back on topic .... "Canada" is a big country. Treating the entire country as one homogeneous group is like blaming Texas for the lunacy that occurs in Kalifornia. Here in Saskatchewan we have had the highest China Flu survival rate in the entire country and simultaneously the least impact on our daily lives. Where we live the "pandemic" has passed almost unnoticed. As far as police enforcement of Covid nonsense goes, I'm sure there are isolated examples where it has actually happened but I'm equally sure those isolated incidents have been repeated in some of the US states as well. If you feel the urge to bring your tourist dollars into Canada please do - we need all the help we can get paying our ballooning federal debt.
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At the risk of putting this thread back on topic .... "Canada" is a big country. Treating the entire country as one homogeneous group is like blaming Texas for the lunacy that occurs in Kalifornia. Here in Saskatchewan we have had the highest China Flu survival rate in the entire country and simultaneously the least impact on our daily lives. Where we live the "pandemic" has passed almost unnoticed. As far as police enforcement of Covid nonsense goes, I'm sure there are isolated examples where it has actually happened but I'm equally sure those isolated incidents have been repeated in some of the US states as well. If you feel the urge to bring your tourist dollars into Canada please do - we need all the help we can get paying our ballooning federal debt.
Bob I don't believe our dollar will help you guys it is worthless here,LOL I stopped at 5 Guys for a burger friggn $12.00 for a hamburger
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Ha! Topped that. $13.00 for a burger at Hoover dam. $8.00 for a hot dog. Damn private dam vendors! I'll buy a damn burger at Mickey D's.lol
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That makes for an expensive vacation...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2021/07/31/canada-travelers-fined-20-k-falsifying-covid-vaccination-credentials/5442379001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2021/07/31/canada-travelers-fined-20-k-falsifying-covid-vaccination-credentials/5442379001/)
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That makes for an expensive vacation...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2021/07/31/canada-travelers-fined-20-k-falsifying-covid-vaccination-credentials/5442379001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2021/07/31/canada-travelers-fined-20-k-falsifying-covid-vaccination-credentials/5442379001/)
Reading seems like they got off lite,one has to follow the rules when in another country,most are not like America and let you off with a slap on wrist
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Reading seems like they got off lite,one has to follow the rules when in another country,most are not like America and let you off with a slap on wrist
Isn't that the truth! I lived in Saudia Arabia and there's no slap on the wrist. you lose your hand or your head! Real deal
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Serves them right. They aren't messing around at the border. And if rejected at one crossing, forget trying another location several hundred miles away. They are all linked and have your info at all of them as soon as you start to enter. Also, check their border crossing requirements before crossing. Things can change day to day.
Hopefully, things will settle down by next May.🤞
I hear speeding violations are quite expensive also.
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I hear speeding violations are quite expensive also.
I think the cops are too busy hassling restaurant owners for having 5 people at the same table so there's nobody left to run radar traps. I can't remember the last time I saw a cruiser with someone stopped on the highway. Brown bears hassling truckers - yes but cops stopping citizens not so much.
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Has anyone checked into what the US is going to do to you, when you come back across?
We can't go down there, so you'll be kinda conspicuous arriving at the gate alone...
Happy coaching!
Buswarrior