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Offline johns4104s

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Re: MC8
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2008, 05:08:47 AM »
Oregon,

I think 10k is to high as you can buy a converted 8 or 9 now for 10 to 15k

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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2008, 05:29:11 AM »
Have seen some really decent MC 9s for less than $10 Grand.  MC 9 is a better bus (better looking, too).  The economy is making this a buyer's market.  If you can afford to buy a bus, get the best one your money will buy.

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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2008, 07:58:03 AM »
Can you direct me to a site where I can get a converted MC 9 for 10K - 15K ?
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2008, 08:20:11 AM »
I've been watching vigilantly for those kind of deals and I have not seen them.  Add another 5K and you start to get into the decent stuff.

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Re: MC8
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2008, 12:36:11 PM »
I have not seen any decent converted 8 or 9 coaches for under 20K and right now 10K is my max :(

I do not want to buy a coach that is not local, I want to be able to see and feel the bus before I buy it.



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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2008, 04:38:54 PM »
I bought my MCI 7 with new engine,new tires, re-skinned with RV windows, no interior and a TON of conversion stuff for 3500.00.  I have about a total of 13K into it and I'm done besides batteries and cables for the inverter.  I am building my own version of the Moosecreek Motorcabin, so that keeps the interior costs down.  I put my money into mechanicals, such as Vanner equalizers, 4k watt inverter, newer used appliances, genset, spray foam insulation etc.  Look for a better deal on the bus and use the capital for conversion.  Keep looking locally and on e-bay.  There are great deals to be had.  You are absolutly right to want to get the feel of it before you buy!

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Re: MC8
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2008, 05:30:40 PM »
I just took a quick look on Ebay and saw a fully converted MCI 9 with a buy it now of 13,000.  There are definitely good deals out there.  You can also use Crazedlist.org and search Craigslist by region or individual markets.
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Re: MC8
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2008, 10:35:00 PM »

I do not want to buy a coach that is not local, I want to be able to see and feel the bus before I buy it.



Jim -

If you want to buy local, then start hoofing around to the charter and tour bus operators in your area.  This is the "slow" time of the year for a lot of carriers, and often when they will unload older fleet vehicles - especially if they've got new equipment coming.

Look for a coach that's been owned by the same company since new - if they spent the money up front to buy it, chances are good they've spent the money necessary to maintain it.

You don't mention in your profile or signature what part of Oregon you're in, but there are quite a few carriers throughout the state.

OTOH, if you're willing to venture south to CA and visit a few carriers, with stops in Sacramento, San Jose, Modesto, Visalia, Lancaster and Rancho Cucamonga, there are six major carriers that I wouldn't hesitate to recommend purchasing a coach from.

Here's two examples on eBay right now, from a couple of the carriers I'd recommend:  180305799716 and 200270332864

As for the MC-8s you asked about. . . Offer the seller $5K for BOTH of them, part the worst of the two out, and use that money toward repairing the other one.

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Re: MC8
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2008, 05:57:52 PM »
Theres a couple 8s on the Frontline Bus. One at 8500.00 and 1 at 7500.00.  Tom Y
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Re: MC8
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2008, 07:09:15 PM »
I just took a quick look on Ebay and saw a fully converted MCI 9 with a buy it now of 13,000.  There are definitely good deals out there.  You can also use Crazedlist.org and search Craigslist by region or individual markets.

Remember that a "buy it now" that doesn't sell becomes a "make offer" for most owners. 
Most incomplete conversions, or home grown conversions won't sell in today's market...unless the buyer is allowed to steal the coach.
A good many private bus owners would almost give the project away to have it out of the yard. 
An unused (unwanted?  :()  bus is a huge albatross.   
Shop till you drop! You'll find a deal. 
Try to find some local busnuts to look at your potential purchases.  Often, if you find one out of your immediate area, you could find a busnut that will look at it for you.   
If you're on a ridgid budget, be sure that you understand what a bus costs to operate and maintain.   They ain't cheap to use.    This is especially so if you are not a mechanic sort.   
 

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Re: MC8
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2008, 06:55:04 PM »
A limited budget might mean a breakdown and an eventual tow to the scrap dealer because you can't afford repairs. I see this ocasionally along PCH and it breaks my heart. It costs money to maintain these wonderfull creatures properly. Just my $.0002 worth. Good luck. We all want to see more conversions on the road so we can oggle and drool, Will

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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2008, 04:52:49 AM »
The cost of the bus is just a small part of the overall cost of the conversion.  You can get a 102A3 for just a little more than what these buses cost.  YOU will be far better off down the line with a 102 wide bus that the 96 in ones. 
It cost the same to convert eather one.
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2008, 04:08:32 PM »
Cost wise, I don't think you can beat purchasing a bus already converted. But like everyone is saying have someone that knows buses to check it out. I like others feel the next 12 months will be an excellent time to buy.

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Re: MC8
« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2008, 06:41:08 AM »
My $.02 is to find the best you can like the experts have said. My bus was $29,000, then $4700 for new clutch and power steering pump, blown air bag at rv park, decided to have all 8 replaced and power steering box leak repaired another $4400, 6 new back tires $1900. So like they say after you get it home other things can pop up that need doing. I am mechanical but theses were items that I was not able to do at home so I had to pay for them.
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Re: MC8
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2008, 07:11:59 PM »
My $.02 is to find the best you can like the experts have said. My bus was $29,000, then $4700 for new clutch and power steering pump, blown air bag at rv park, decided to have all 8 replaced and power steering box leak repaired another $4400, 6 new back tires $1900. So like they say after you get it home other things can pop up that need doing. I am mechanical but theses were items that I was not able to do at home so I had to pay for them.

Amen.   Other thing$ WILL pop up.   :o
I also agree with Jack regarding the 102" coach.   I've had excellent success with my old MC9, but...an extra 6" sure would be nice... ;)
If buying a bus, buying the best shell may be a better approach than looking for a completed coach.   Although, both are around at fire-sale prices.  A self-limiting factor is the 'local' focus of your search.  Don't be afraid to look a day or so drive from your home.   
If you locate a home-grown conversion, be sure that ALL systems work as designed, and that the coach will fit your needs.    Don't buy an all electric coach if you plan to do a lot of boonying.   Consider your needs.   And remember that there are very few owner converted coaches that don't need major 'adjustments' in some form.   
Look at Ebay, private bus sites, and craigslist.  Place a 'want-ad'...
Fuel is getting less expensive so moving a bus over long distances isn't quite as painful.   
Scan, what sort of tires did you buy for $1900 bucks?  What size?  I've been shopping tires and about $450 each is what I'm finding...what I wanted was in the $700 each range.   Michelins.   Forget that.   Looking at Firestone again.
Moving my steering tires to the tags and replacing drive and steers.   The tire thing has been on hold for a bit due to an unexpected interaction with the healthcare industry... ???   Alas, we'll get going again soon. 

JR




 

   
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