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Offline Sebulba

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Now for a Wheel Topic
« on: March 18, 2022, 03:33:53 PM »
Hello all,

I finally explored the spare tire area behind the front bumper.  No spare tire.

I was hoping for one so that I could maybe buy one more wheel and sandblast and paint 2 up nice and pretty to put new steer tires on and then sandblast and paint the next 2 and on we go.

So, my question.  Ho can I tell what size wheels they are?  As I understand there are 8.5 inchers and 9 inchers.

And where would be a good place for a guy to pick up 2 of these on the cheap?

Thanks for your help?

Seb
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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2022, 04:39:24 PM »
As you step in on the left side it tells you what size tire and wheel the 315/80/22.5 takes a 9 inch wide wheel the 12R's take a 8-1/4 wide wheel
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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2022, 04:57:41 PM »
As you step in on the left side it tells you what size tire and wheel the 315/80/22.5 takes a 9 inch wide wheel the 12R's take a 8-1/4 wide wheel

As I remember I have 12R, so will check for sure.

Thanks

Seb
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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2022, 11:18:48 PM »
How can I tell what size wheels they are?  As I understand there are 8.5 inchers and 9 inchers.

And where would be a good place for a guy to pick up 2 of these on the cheap?
Seb -

First question? Clean all the muck & gunk off the outer dual's wheel, then carefully inspect it all around the entire wheel in the area between the valve stem and the outer rim. 99.9% chance you're going to find the wheel size stamped into the wheel in this area. (On my coach it's directly opposite the valve stem, obviously YMMV.)

Second question? Just about any truck boneyard will have lots of wheels lying around. You just have to be careful to make sure you're getting either stud-pilot (aka "Budd") wheels or hub-piloted rims. Quick check to see what you have is look at the lug nuts - if they look like giant automobile nuts with a taper that goes down into the wheel, they're stud-piloted.  If they look like they've got an attached washer, you've got hub-piloted rims.

OTOH, Brand new steel wheels are only about $100-$125 or so, depending on the vendor.

FWIW & HTH. . . ;)

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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2022, 08:22:44 AM »
Seb -

First question? Clean all the muck & gunk off the outer dual's wheel, then carefully inspect it all around the entire wheel in the area between the valve stem and the outer rim. 99.9% chance you're going to find the wheel size stamped into the wheel in this area. (On my coach it's directly opposite the valve stem, obviously YMMV.)

Second question? Just about any truck boneyard will have lots of wheels lying around. You just have to be careful to make sure you're getting either stud-pilot (aka "Budd") wheels or hub-piloted rims. Quick check to see what you have is look at the lug nuts - if they look like giant automobile nuts with a taper that goes down into the wheel, they're stud-piloted.  If they look like they've got an attached washer, you've got hub-piloted rims.

OTOH, Brand new steel wheels are only about $100-$125 or so, depending on the vendor.

FWIW & HTH. . . ;)

RJ

Thank you, maybe in the next day or 2 I can do that.  At least now I now where to look.

Seb
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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2022, 08:26:13 AM »
Before hittin' the halt mine today I snapped this pic.

Based on RJ's post I think these may be Hub-Piloted Rims.  Can you tell by the pic?

Thanks

Seb
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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2022, 01:33:25 PM »
Look at the drive axle if you have a square head sticking through the nut you have stud pilot wheels is the easy way to tell ,the extreme duty stud pilot lug nuts MCI used look like hub pilot nuts fwiw
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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2022, 02:38:56 PM »
My bus doesn't have a spare wheel behind the front bumper. That's where they put the ninety gallon fresh water tank....

Maybe there's a better use for that volume of space?

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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2022, 03:53:23 PM »
My bus doesn't have a spare wheel behind the front bumper. That's where they put the ninety gallon fresh water tank....

Maybe there's a better use for that volume of space?

All depends on how you use the bus...nothing like having a spare onboard when you have a need and there isn't a tire to be had where you are. Especially if you have a tire size not found in every truck stop, like a 12R22.5, having a spare can be the difference between a few hours on the side of a road and a tow bill and a few days.
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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2022, 05:02:30 PM »
What Richard said.
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Offline Sebulba

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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2022, 03:29:44 AM »
What Richard said.

I tend to be the type that likes to be prepared for anything that might happen, so am with you two on this one.

Seb
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Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://myvintagehat.com/

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Re: Now for a Wheel Topic
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2022, 12:54:25 PM »
Look at the drive axle if you have a square head sticking through the nut you have stud pilot wheels is the easy way to tell ,the extreme duty stud pilot lug nuts MCI used look like hub pilot nuts fwiw

OK, so it looks like I have Stud Pilot wheels.  Not exactly sure what that means and I hope that is a good thing.

Now I wonder where would be a good place to get a couple of them?

I found this in a quick Google Search:

https://vanderhaags.com/detailview.php?part=24232634&adtype=googleshopping&keyword=&matchtype=&aid=469377048605&source=adwords&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpuy7s4Xi9gIVFRx9Ch1urQRtEAQYAyABEgKoTPD_BwE

Thanks Luvrbus,

Seb
Back to the U.S. after 8 years in Europe.  
Bought a 1997 MCI 102D3 with Allison B500 on November 17, 2021 in Syracuse, NY.  Commenced living it that day and  drove it to Florida and New Mexico.  Converting as we go.  https://myvintagehat.com/

 

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