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The History of the Greyhound Silversides - Part 4 of 5
« on: July 01, 2023, 05:40:49 AM »
This is one of the most loved cars Greyhound ever operated. Born at the 1939 New York World’s Fair, at first (PGG 3701) a 33-foot car, it rapidly became a 35-footer. The main-stay of the fleet until the arrival of the PD 4104. The Silverside put Greyhound back on the map in the postwar mid-'40s. This is a must-see video for the Silverside lover.

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Re: The History of the Greyhound Silversides - Part 4 of 5
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2023, 11:44:52 AM »
Where's this "car" phrase coming from. I know about Prevosts but GM?
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Re: The History of the Greyhound Silversides - Part 4 of 5
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2023, 04:03:57 PM »
"Cars" is a Greyhound term they used since forever for their bus/coaches. Drivers all used the term, and the dispatchers and management as well. Merely a Corporate Culture kind of thing. There was a touring company owned by Greyhound Corp. called California Parlor Car that ran up the coast road #1 along the cliffs, on the really scenic/scary portion, to Hearst Castle, Big Sur, Monterey etc. They used Greyhound drivers who were working Cal Parlor Car, as a separate company/division, still wholly owned by the Corp. They also only used 35ft Coaches (MC5) due to the winding nature of the road. I've driven that road on a few charters and it's truly one of the Sportiest drives around. I even took my J coach through the Devils Slide area once or twice and that was a real thrill for sure.

Also it might help to remember the original GMC designation for the new model Rear engine Coaches starting with, I'm not sure(?), the P(arlor) G(as) G(??) 3751(?), as P(arlor car) D(iesel) XX(passenger capacity) XX(model number). PD 410X, PD4501, etc. They called them Parlor Cars and I guess Greyhound took it and ran with it.

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Re: The History of the Greyhound Silversides - Part 4 of 5
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2023, 06:51:05 PM »
"Cars" is a Greyhound term they used since forever for their bus/coaches. Drivers all used the term, and the dispatchers and management as well. Merely a Corporate Culture kind of thing. There was a touring company owned by Greyhound Corp. called California Parlor Car that ran up the coast road #1 along the cliffs, on the really scenic/scary portion, to Hearst Castle, Big Sur, Monterey etc. They used Greyhound drivers who were working Cal Parlor Car, as a separate company/division, still wholly owned by the Corp. They also only used 35ft Coaches (MC5) due to the winding nature of the road. I've driven that road on a few charters and it's truly one of the Sportiest drives around. I even took my J coach through the Devils Slide area once or twice and that was a real thrill for sure.

Also it might help to remember the original GMC designation for the new model Rear engine Coaches starting with, I'm not sure(?), the P(arlor) G(as) G(??) 3751(?), as P(arlor car) D(iesel) XX(passenger capacity) XX(model number). PD 410X, PD4501, etc. They called them Parlor Cars and I guess Greyhound took it and ran with it.

Thanks, C&CG.  I thought it was a Canadian term. I learned something new today.
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Re: The History of the Greyhound Silversides - Part 4 of 5
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2023, 07:03:29 PM »
When I was driving buses in the Canadian Rockies in the '70s and '80s, we often called them "cars". It was common at that time. I was with Brewster Grayline then, which was a subsidiary of Greyhound. So I guess we got that from Greyhound. In broader terms, "car" means any vehicle that carries people or freight. Such as a train car, street car, dining car, baggage car, cable car, elevator car, etc. Also the carrier for passengers of a airship or balloon is called a car. And at least California, and maybe other jurisdictions, defines a motor home as a "house car". When I had my MC5C, I had decals made for each side that said "private car".
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