Nearly all diesel buses are subject to the Clean Truck Check.

[Dave5Cs]

where you charge your EV buy pot and smoke it in a restaurant lol you don't see no smoking signs around that restaurant and no I haven't been to that restaurant but Van and I are going to check the food out oneday

Hope they have a big dessert bar,lol

[luvrbus]

Hope they have a big dessert bar,lol

They have a smoking bar there to ,I don't know about dessert lol maybe laced with something if they do

[windtrader]

I wonder if I can get an unofficial pre-test now to know if I'll pass the real opacity test in one year's time.   Fortunately my annual registration is due in December, so I should be getting my new registration very soon in the mail to last me until December next year.

Can a fully converted bus be considered a Historical Vehicle in California?   I thought a HV could only be in its original form, i.e. without having been converted or otherwise altered from the original.

John

John,That is exactly what I did, an individual request for a snap test. Apparently, most smog testers for commercial vehicles are mobile based and generally do a fleet on each visit, or some number of them. Doing a single vehicle is not the norm. I happened to call one who was very accommodating, and was nearby so he came over and performed the test for 90 bucks, handed me the test results, no need to file. CARB has a list of certified testers you can refer to.

[luvrbus]

I was told CA emissions testing is going to triple in price starting Jan 2024 .Owners of buses in CA decided they don't need the larger injectors now they are after the 60's and 70's , shucking the 9A90 and 9G90's for less smoke

[Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM]

I was told CA emissions testing is going to triple in price starting Jan 2024 .Owners of buses in CA decided they don't need the larger injectors now they are after the 60's and 70's , shucking the 9A90 and 9G90's for less smoke

I am sure the state of California will reimburse owners for replacing their injectors...right? 

[luvrbus]

The emission systems on new diesel pickups add $17.000.00 to the price,on class 8 trucks it is close to $40,000.00 it is wacky to maintain those cost big bucks too,  in the end old Joe the consumer pays  as always

[windtrader]

I was told CA emissions testing is going to triple in price starting Jan 2024 .Owners of buses in CA decided they don't need the larger injectors now they are after the 60's and 70's , shucking the 9A90 and 9G90's for less smoke

I've heard a single mention of increased testing fees. We are subjected to annual testing, other commercial engines are twice a year, so yeah, double the income. lol

[luvrbus]

I've heard a single mention of increased testing fees. We are subjected to annual testing, other commercial engines are twice a year, so yeah, double the income. lol

They have already hit the truckers for $30.00 extra in July and by 2027 trucks and buses will be tested every 3 months  or 4 times a year

[windtrader]

The Clean Truck Check program regulations on all things not involving our 2 stroke bus conversions is stricter, details beyond that I have no clue other than the testers are going to be getting a lot more business.

[luvrbus]

CARB is going to get you Don, in time just a few years ago everyone was saying old 2 cycle buses converted to RV's were exempt from emissions, now you have testing  they have their foot in the door

[muldoonman]

Yes, the handwriting is On the wall for the Old Mighty 2 Strokes in Liberal DemoRat run Commiefornia. Heck, bring um to Texas. So far, they ain't lost their minds.

[Iceni John]

I was looking at my Pink Slip today, and it only says MH (motorhome) as Body Type and D (diesel) as Fuel.   It doesn't state the weight or axles, so how does CARB know what a 1990 Crown motorhome is?   (Crown went out of business in 1991 and never made any RVs, so it may not be obvious to CARB what it is.)   Maybe it could be a small RV with a small diesel engine that doesn't fall under their oversight?   If, hypothetically speaking of course, one 'forgot' to register one's vehicle with CARB, how would CARB know about it?   Just wondering...

John

[windtrader]

I'df not be surprised something like that is already in the works. CARB lines this stuff years in advance. Clifford can attest to the number of years it takes to complete each program. It took 5-7 years for the main kill off of '97 and later engines.

[Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM]

I was looking at my Pink Slip today, and it only says MH (motorhome) as Body Type and D (diesel) as Fuel.   It doesn't state the weight or axles, so how does CARB know what a 1990 Crown motorhome is?   (Crown went out of business in 1991 and never made any RVs, so it may not be obvious to CARB what it is.)   Maybe it could be a small RV with a small diesel engine that doesn't fall under their oversight?   If, hypothetically speaking of course, one 'forgot' to register one's vehicle with CARB, how would CARB know about it?   Just wondering...

John

John, just slip a Kubota engine in there until it passes CARB then change it back out after you get back to the barn. 

[luvrbus]

John, just slip a Kubota engine in there until it passes CARB then change it back out after you get back to the barn. 

That  won't do any good Gary ,CARB is going to test generators before long ,it is already done for standby emergency generators ,they are wanting tier 4 engines on the generators